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L'affaire de warminster dans les années 1960 et 1970 un canular?
Dim 11 Oct 2009, 21:36
L'affaire de warminster
Je ne sais pas si vous connaissez cette affaire mais elle semble importante en Angleterre. Le problème est que nous n'avons pas assez d'informations en français là dessus.
RR3 Noël 1964 à Warminster (GB
Je ne sais pas si vous connaissez cette affaire mais elle semble importante en Angleterre. Le problème est que nous n'avons pas assez d'informations en français là dessus.
RR3 Noël 1964 à Warminster (GB
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Re: L'affaire de warminster dans les années 1960 et 1970 un canular?
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Declassified MOD file:
A drawing of a dome-shaped UFO with flashing coloured lights that was drawn by a police officer called to a house in Stanmore, North London, one night in August 1984. The sketch was attached to a report by the Metropolitan Police to the Ministry of Defence.
www.forteantimes.com...
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Policeman and Pilot both report Giant UFO in Puerto Rico:
Reserved Matter: Gigantic UFOs in Our Coasts
Among the incidents of this type that occurred in recent years, which have upset the federal and local authorities in the Island, there are two that we will discuss briefly.
The first one has to do with the sighting, two pilots, one of them member of the Police of Puerto Rico, had in the summer of 1995, of an extraordinary flying saucer type craft in waters south of the municipality of Guayanilla.
In a conversation, the officer, who asked us to maintain his identity as anonymous for the moment, told us what they saw: "That it was incredible - said the officer.
We left in a private Cessna airplane from “Cabo Rojo (West)” to the Airport of Mercedita, in Ponce [south of the Island].
It was about 3:00 PM and it was a beautiful day, sunny, clear, without clouds. We were flying a few miles to the south of Guayanilla, over the sea,and suddenly we saw that object.... It was an incredible sight...There, submerged just below the waters, surface, was an object similar to an enormous flying saucer.
It was submerged, under water, but not very deep, and we could appreciate its details. It was a very big object, round and appeared to be metallic, opaque gray in color, like flat pewter aluminum.
It had four stories, with each smaller in diameter, like a cake, and in each floor it had what seemed to be many square windows. On the top floor or section it had a large dome, very big, also metallic. It seemed to us that it was 400 some feet in diameter. We could not believe what we saw. It was something extraordinary.
The police officer told us that they decided to examine it, circling the object and discovered, with great amazement, that the object measured at least a mile in diameter. It took them seven minutes to totally circumvent the object.
The enormous object, in the shape of a disc, was just lying under water without any sign of activity, either in its interior, or outside of it.
With great astonishment and a bit scared, they decided to leave the area, landing later at the Mercedita Airport in Ponce. Once there, they told other people about what they saw, and they were told of similar incidents that had occurred in the region.
As it were, a couple of days after the sighting of the great UFO, better described as USO (unidentified submerged object) two fishermen from the area had an impressive encounter with a similar object perhaps the same one, of gargantuan dimensions, that exited from the sea in front of them surrounded by great luminosity. Both fishermen suffered what appeared to be severe radiation burns and were medically treated.
www.waterufo.net...
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread409420/pg1
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Declassified MOD file:
A drawing of a dome-shaped UFO with flashing coloured lights that was drawn by a police officer called to a house in Stanmore, North London, one night in August 1984. The sketch was attached to a report by the Metropolitan Police to the Ministry of Defence.
www.forteantimes.com...
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Policeman and Pilot both report Giant UFO in Puerto Rico:
Reserved Matter: Gigantic UFOs in Our Coasts
Among the incidents of this type that occurred in recent years, which have upset the federal and local authorities in the Island, there are two that we will discuss briefly.
The first one has to do with the sighting, two pilots, one of them member of the Police of Puerto Rico, had in the summer of 1995, of an extraordinary flying saucer type craft in waters south of the municipality of Guayanilla.
In a conversation, the officer, who asked us to maintain his identity as anonymous for the moment, told us what they saw: "That it was incredible - said the officer.
We left in a private Cessna airplane from “Cabo Rojo (West)” to the Airport of Mercedita, in Ponce [south of the Island].
It was about 3:00 PM and it was a beautiful day, sunny, clear, without clouds. We were flying a few miles to the south of Guayanilla, over the sea,and suddenly we saw that object.... It was an incredible sight...There, submerged just below the waters, surface, was an object similar to an enormous flying saucer.
It was submerged, under water, but not very deep, and we could appreciate its details. It was a very big object, round and appeared to be metallic, opaque gray in color, like flat pewter aluminum.
It had four stories, with each smaller in diameter, like a cake, and in each floor it had what seemed to be many square windows. On the top floor or section it had a large dome, very big, also metallic. It seemed to us that it was 400 some feet in diameter. We could not believe what we saw. It was something extraordinary.
The police officer told us that they decided to examine it, circling the object and discovered, with great amazement, that the object measured at least a mile in diameter. It took them seven minutes to totally circumvent the object.
The enormous object, in the shape of a disc, was just lying under water without any sign of activity, either in its interior, or outside of it.
With great astonishment and a bit scared, they decided to leave the area, landing later at the Mercedita Airport in Ponce. Once there, they told other people about what they saw, and they were told of similar incidents that had occurred in the region.
As it were, a couple of days after the sighting of the great UFO, better described as USO (unidentified submerged object) two fishermen from the area had an impressive encounter with a similar object perhaps the same one, of gargantuan dimensions, that exited from the sea in front of them surrounded by great luminosity. Both fishermen suffered what appeared to be severe radiation burns and were medically treated.
www.waterufo.net...
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread409420/pg1
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Re: L'affaire de warminster dans les années 1960 et 1970 un canular?
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Re: L'affaire de warminster dans les années 1960 et 1970 un canular?
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http://www.afu.info/booksbycodeU.htm
UAGW
Warminster
Shuttlewood, Arthur: The flying saucerers.
1976
3
UAGW
Warminster
Shuttlewood, Arthur: The Warminster mystery.
1967
2
UAGW
Warminster
Shuttlewood, Arthur: UFO magic in motion.
1979
3
UAGW
Warminster
Shuttlewood, Arthur: UFOs - key to the new age.
1971
3
UAGW
Warminster
Shuttlewood, Arthur: Warnings from flying friends.
1968
UAGW
Warminster
Shuttlewood, Arthur: The flying saucerers.
1976
3
UAGW
Warminster
Shuttlewood, Arthur: The Warminster mystery.
1967
2
UAGW
Warminster
Shuttlewood, Arthur: UFO magic in motion.
1979
3
UAGW
Warminster
Shuttlewood, Arthur: UFOs - key to the new age.
1971
3
UAGW
Warminster
Shuttlewood, Arthur: Warnings from flying friends.
1968
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Re: L'affaire de warminster dans les années 1960 et 1970 un canular?
Dim 11 Oct 2009, 21:46
LA "CHOSE DE WARMINSTER" DANS LA PRESSE:
L'article ci-dessous est paru dans le quotidien The Rocky Mountain News, Rocky Mountain, USA, le 29 août 1965.
THINGAMAJIC - WARMINSTER, ANGLETERRE, 28 AOUT 28 (UPI). -- Pratiquement personne dans cette petite ville dans la campagne occidentale de l'Angleterre ne prend le sujet des objets volants non identifié à à la légère.
La "Chose", comme on l'appelle ici, a effrayé les citadins pendant les derniers mois.
Comme dans la plupart des cas d'autres OVNIS autour du monde, les rapports au sujet de la "Chose" de Warminster varient.
Certains qui affirment aussi l'avoir vu disent qu'elle s'allume, émet de bruits étranges et attaque avec "ondes sonores sauvages", d'autres la décrivent comme allongée, et en forme de cigare et capable de planer.
La "chose" a été blâmée de plusieurs événements étranges dans ce secteur, comme des massacres de rongeurs et de pigeons et de créer des tourbillons géants à partir de rien.
Une mère a rapporté que sa jeune fille a été partiellement paralysée par les ondes sonores émises par la "Chose."
Le dossier des rapports est épais. Et le Conseil Municipal de Warminster tient une enquête publique formelle sur le sujet ce soir.
"Mon objectif principal est de rassurer les gens," dit Rees. "Si ces choses viennent de l'espace, alors elles n'ont jamais fait le moindre mal à quiconque pour autant qu'on le sache jusqu'ici. Nous voulons obtenir tous les faits et clarifier la situation."
Le premier rapport est venu en décembre passé quand Mme Joan Bye a dit qu'elle a été projetée contre un mur par des "ondes sonores sauvages."
A peu près en même temps, Roger Rump, 55 ans, le chef de la poste de Warminster, a dit qu'il a été réveillé par de forts bruits qui ont ressemblé à "des tuiles tombant d'un toit." Rump a dit que sa grande tante, qui est partiellement sourde, a également entendu le cliquetis.
http://www.ufologie.net/press/rockymountainnews29aug1965f.htm
L'article ci-dessous est paru dans le quotidien The Rocky Mountain News, Rocky Mountain, USA, le 29 août 1965.
THINGAMAJIC - WARMINSTER, ANGLETERRE, 28 AOUT 28 (UPI). -- Pratiquement personne dans cette petite ville dans la campagne occidentale de l'Angleterre ne prend le sujet des objets volants non identifié à à la légère.
La "Chose", comme on l'appelle ici, a effrayé les citadins pendant les derniers mois.
Comme dans la plupart des cas d'autres OVNIS autour du monde, les rapports au sujet de la "Chose" de Warminster varient.
Certains qui affirment aussi l'avoir vu disent qu'elle s'allume, émet de bruits étranges et attaque avec "ondes sonores sauvages", d'autres la décrivent comme allongée, et en forme de cigare et capable de planer.
La "chose" a été blâmée de plusieurs événements étranges dans ce secteur, comme des massacres de rongeurs et de pigeons et de créer des tourbillons géants à partir de rien.
Une mère a rapporté que sa jeune fille a été partiellement paralysée par les ondes sonores émises par la "Chose."
Le dossier des rapports est épais. Et le Conseil Municipal de Warminster tient une enquête publique formelle sur le sujet ce soir.
"Mon objectif principal est de rassurer les gens," dit Rees. "Si ces choses viennent de l'espace, alors elles n'ont jamais fait le moindre mal à quiconque pour autant qu'on le sache jusqu'ici. Nous voulons obtenir tous les faits et clarifier la situation."
Le premier rapport est venu en décembre passé quand Mme Joan Bye a dit qu'elle a été projetée contre un mur par des "ondes sonores sauvages."
A peu près en même temps, Roger Rump, 55 ans, le chef de la poste de Warminster, a dit qu'il a été réveillé par de forts bruits qui ont ressemblé à "des tuiles tombant d'un toit." Rump a dit que sa grande tante, qui est partiellement sourde, a également entendu le cliquetis.
http://www.ufologie.net/press/rockymountainnews29aug1965f.htm
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Re: L'affaire de warminster dans les années 1960 et 1970 un canular?
Dim 11 Oct 2009, 21:48
3) Le « Dayly Express » des 11 et 12 juillet 1983 publie des photos de traces circulaires de grandes dimensions découvertes dans la nature, près de Warminster (lieu privilégié en matière d'observations d'OVNI). Il est totalement exclu qu'il puisse s'agir de l'oeuvre d'un plaisantin, non plus que d'un « tourbillon de vent » (dessinant des empreintes parfaitement géométriques !) comme l'imagine naïvement une fermière du coin !
Revue NOSTRA n°587 du 8 au 15 septembre 1983, pages 26 à 28
TRIBUNE LIBRE À Jimmy GUIEU
Revue NOSTRA n°587 du 8 au 15 septembre 1983, pages 26 à 28
TRIBUNE LIBRE À Jimmy GUIEU
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Re: L'affaire de warminster dans les années 1960 et 1970 un canular?
Dim 11 Oct 2009, 21:52
Arthur Shuttlewood
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En 1964, journaliste de 30 ans, Shuttlewood commence à couvrir des événements étranges et observations d'ovnis dans le Warminster (Angleterre). D'abord sceptique, il devient convaincu de l'origine non-terrienne des observations après avoir parlé à un grand nombre de témoins crédibles et avoir fait une observation lui-même.
Par la suite il reçoit des appels téléphoniques répétés sur une période de 7 semaines de gens déclarant venir d'autres planètes. Il racontera ces événements à la radio en 1966.
Auteur de :
* The Warminster Mystery, Londres: Neville-Spearman, 1967
* Warning from Flying Friends, 1968
Références :
* "Warminster: The Thing and Arthur Shuttlewood", Magonia
http://rr0.org/ShuttlewoodArthur.html
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Shuttlewood Shuttlewood
En 1964, journaliste de 30 ans, Shuttlewood commence à couvrir des événements étranges et observations d'ovnis dans le Warminster (Angleterre). D'abord sceptique, il devient convaincu de l'origine non-terrienne des observations après avoir parlé à un grand nombre de témoins crédibles et avoir fait une observation lui-même.
Par la suite il reçoit des appels téléphoniques répétés sur une période de 7 semaines de gens déclarant venir d'autres planètes. Il racontera ces événements à la radio en 1966.
Auteur de :
* The Warminster Mystery, Londres: Neville-Spearman, 1967
* Warning from Flying Friends, 1968
Références :
* "Warminster: The Thing and Arthur Shuttlewood", Magonia
http://rr0.org/ShuttlewoodArthur.html
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Re: L'affaire de warminster dans les années 1960 et 1970 un canular?
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Warminster:
The Thing and Arthur Shuttlewood
Now all but forgotten (try looking it up in a modern UFO book), the sleepy Wiltshire town of Warminster, located about 15 miles west of Stonehenge, was once as much a UFO mecca as Gulf Breeze is today. Over the August Bank Holiday weekend of 1965 it is estimated that as many as 10,000 people flooded into the area, all in search of the mysterious "thing", a UFO that had been spotted by numerous people since the previous Christmas. Pubs ran dry that weekend for the first time since World War II, and it would be a good five years before things ever returned toanything approaching "normality".
These articles are amongst the earliest surviving relics of the pre-Magonia era, and provide a unique insight into a town besieged by UFO mania.
* Warminster's Contactee
John Harney, October 1966
* A Visit to Warminster
John Harney & Alan Sharp, June 1967
* The Latest Warminster Landing
Arthur Shuttlewood, July/August 1969
* Warminster Revisited
John Rimmer, September/October 1969
* Disenchantment
John Harney, September/October 1971
* The Wrath of Shuttlewood
Arthur Shuttlewood, January 1972
* 60's archive / Main archive
http://web.archive.org/web/20070226134350/http://www.magonia.demon.co.uk/arc/60/warmintro.htm
The Thing and Arthur Shuttlewood
Now all but forgotten (try looking it up in a modern UFO book), the sleepy Wiltshire town of Warminster, located about 15 miles west of Stonehenge, was once as much a UFO mecca as Gulf Breeze is today. Over the August Bank Holiday weekend of 1965 it is estimated that as many as 10,000 people flooded into the area, all in search of the mysterious "thing", a UFO that had been spotted by numerous people since the previous Christmas. Pubs ran dry that weekend for the first time since World War II, and it would be a good five years before things ever returned toanything approaching "normality".
These articles are amongst the earliest surviving relics of the pre-Magonia era, and provide a unique insight into a town besieged by UFO mania.
* Warminster's Contactee
John Harney, October 1966
* A Visit to Warminster
John Harney & Alan Sharp, June 1967
* The Latest Warminster Landing
Arthur Shuttlewood, July/August 1969
* Warminster Revisited
John Rimmer, September/October 1969
* Disenchantment
John Harney, September/October 1971
* The Wrath of Shuttlewood
Arthur Shuttlewood, January 1972
* 60's archive / Main archive
http://web.archive.org/web/20070226134350/http://www.magonia.demon.co.uk/arc/60/warmintro.htm
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Re: L'affaire de warminster dans les années 1960 et 1970 un canular?
Dim 11 Oct 2009, 21:55
This article annoyed some believers, but Charles Bowen thought it sufficiently interesting to reprint in Flying Saucer Review. It appeared in the June 1967 issue of MUFORG Bulletin.
REPORT ON A VISIT TO WARMINSTER
27-29 MAY 1967
John Harney and Alan Sharp
We arrived at Warminster on the Saturday afternoon (27 May) and soon discovered that there were other ufologists staying there that weekend, including Nigel Stephenson, Ken Rogers, Jimmy Goddard and a party of NICAP/GB members.
That afternoon we learned that the NICAP/GB party had claimed to have sighted two, reddish cigar-shaped objects the previous night from a vantage point on Battlesbury Hill. This sighting took place, we were given to understand, in fulfilment of a prediction obtained during a sort of table-turning session. As we were not present at these events and have no further details at the time of writing, we have no comments to make on them.
During the Saturday afternoon and evening there was talk of a general expectation that "something big was going to happen" that night. We did not share this feeling, so the reason for it remains obscure to us.
Arthur Shuttlewood and his friend, Bob Strong, had organised a skywatch for the Saturday night. Apparently their intention was to take advantage of the Army ranges being open that weekend and to make an excursion to the deserted village of Imber. We joined the convoy in Warminster at the appointed time and soon perceived that some sort of argument was going on. It was not made clear to us just what the trouble was, but it seemed that Arthur Shuttlewood or Bob Strong thought that there were too many people in the convoy and, presumably, it was thought that the UFOs would be put off by the presence of a relatively large number of skywatchers concentrated in one group.
The leading cars in the convoy drove off unexpectedly and were soon lost to view, so the rest of us decided to drive up Cradle Hill, which was near at hand and as good a place as any for observing UFOs, by all accounts. Arrived at the top of Cradle Hill, we found that the rest of the party had gone there after all. A great argument was taking place: apparently some proposed to stay at Cradle Hill and others wanted to go to Imber, and among those who wanted to go to Imber there was disagreement over which route to take. Also, various wild rumours were being bandied about, one of them being that "the Army would shoot Shuttlewood if he drove on to the ranges". The whole business was very confusing and we would hesitate to pin the responsibility for this muddle on to any particular person or persons.
Eventually some of us left Cradle Hill and drove up to the ranges. When we reached the guardhouse, Shuttlewood and his friends were already there, having taken a short cut. We then followed some cars across the range to Imber and drew up about half a mile beyond the village to commence skywatching. The sky was rather cloudy and only a few stars were visible. Nothing unusual was to be seen for a time until one of us noticed a flash of lightning on the horizon in an easterly direction. The flashes continued to the east and south east. No thunder was heard, so the storms must have been a long way away.
The other cars went away, one by one, so we finally returned to the guardhouse to see if we could learn if Mr Shuttlewood was having any luck. There were several cars parked there when we arrived and we were told that Shuttlewood had got quite excited when the lightning commenced and said that it was definitely not lightning, but a manifestation of the "Thing". He had then driven off into the night, hoping to view it at closer quarters.
After some time Shuttlewood's car returned and he was soon giving the most extraordinary descriptions of what, to us, was merely lightning (1) produced by distant thunderstorms. His car then drove off. We remained a while longer and left at about 1.30 a.m., when it began to rain.
Shuttlewood's reactions to the display of lightning did nothing to diminish our scepticism concerning many of the UFOs allegedly seen during Warminster skywatches. If ordinary lightning can be transformed when seen with the "eye of faith", into something out of this world, one might perhaps be forgiven for supposing that other phenomena, both natural and artificial, are regularly being misinterpreted in similar fashion during such skywatches.
However, when this was suggested, in a review of Mr Shuttlewood's lecture at last year's BUFORA Northern Conference (2), great indignation was aroused. The opinions expressed in that review were based on information received from people with experience of skywatching at Warminster. For example, one report received from a reliable source (3) was an observation of a certain, very well-known ufologist pointing at a star and calling it "a definite UFO".
That weekend there was some discussion about a report by Arthur Shuttlewood and Bob Strong of a landing at Starr Hill. An account of this alleged incident had been published in the latest issue of SUFOA. (4) We learned that since this incident, different groups of enthusiasts had been to Starr Hill and had investigated a house from which "strange" lights were said to emanate. Some said the house was deserted and some said it was not. So, on the Sunday (28 May), Alan Sharp visited the place in question and found it to consist of a settlement of several farms and about a dozen workers' houses. It was discovered that the "deserted" house was merely not regularly lived in by the owner, who has a place elsewhere, but employees keep an eye on the premises and he pays visits. The rest of the dwellings in the vicinity are occupied.
The owner of the nearest farm to the east of the "deserted" house was interviewed and he said that he had never observed anything odd in the vicinity. he regarded the stories of strange lights, etc., with tolerant amusement and seemed to regard the Army as the source of genuine "unknown" observations. Various startling UFO incidents are said to have happened in the vicinity of a copse known as Colloway Clump. We visited this area and Alan Sharp enquired at New Farm, only a few hundred yards away from the Clump and in full view of it. The farmer and his son said they had never seen anything unusual in the vicinity of the copse and suggested that some well-known locals were overworking their powers of imagination. They also said that of all the people who had been poking around in the vicinity, not one had approached the farm for permission to investigate. A visit was made to one of the houses where strange noises (the "Warminster Sound") have been heard. The occupants were interviewed and samples were taken from the garden and the gutters(5). By all accounts, these reports of strange noises appear to be genuine. Some people have attempted to explain them away as being due to the activities of helicopters, but this theory is unconvincing in view of the descriptions given. On the other hand, it would seem to be somewhat rash to accept the popular notion that the noises are due to the activities of alien space craft before other possibilities, such as atmospheric electrical phenomena of an unusual nature, have been adequately explored.
On Sunday evening we learned that Mr Shuttlewood claimed to have had a "contact" that afternoon. Apparently, one of the "Aenstrians" telephoned him and Shuttlewood told him something to the effect that he would have to see him in the flesh if he was to be absolutely certain that the "Aenstrians" were not just hoaxers and slammed the phone down. A few minutes later there was a knock at the door and a spaceman was duly admitted. This being had a very high forehead and blue lips and had one or two things to say, including the prediction that a third world war would break out shortly. The apparition was also seen by other members of Shuttlewood's family.
Earlier in the day, Alan Sharp had been treated to a demonstration, by a sceptical Warminster resident, of the technique of making local calls from a coin-box phone without putting any money in the box. The reason for this demonstration was Shuttlewood's statement that the space people claimed to telephone him from a public box, but he never heard any money going in. (6) However, Mr Shuttlewood's latest claim would seem to dispose of the necessity of studying the technicalities of the telephone system. At this stage there is no useful comment we can make on the new contact claim.
Later that Sunday evening we went skywatching on Cradle Hill, accompanied by Ken Rogers and Nigel Stephenson. It was a clear night and we saw one aircraft, four meteors and a satellite, but no UFOs.
To sum up, then, the strange noises which originally drew attention to Warminster were almost certainly genuine observations. Also it would appear that there have been other observations in the area which are worthy of further investigation. However, there can be little doubt that the majority of UFO reports from Warminster are spurious. Our own experiences and a careful reading of published reports indicate that many ufologists seem to leave their critical faculties at home when they go to Warminster.
Notes and References
1. According to the Daily Weather Report of the British Meteorological Office (No. 38538, 28 May 1967), lightning, but no thunder, was reported during the period 2100-0300 GMT on the night of 27-28 May at Boscombe Down. A glance at the midnight (GMT) reports from other stations revealed that thunderstorms had been widespread in the southern half of the British Isles that evening.
2. "Warminster's Contactee", MUFORG Bulletin, October 1966
3. Private communication to the editor
4. Barry W. Woodgate, "Return to Warminster", SUFOA, March/April 1967
5. We hope to publish more about these observations in a future issue of the Bulletin.
6. Arthur Shuttlewood, "The Warminster Mystery", page 187
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REPORT ON A VISIT TO WARMINSTER
27-29 MAY 1967
John Harney and Alan Sharp
We arrived at Warminster on the Saturday afternoon (27 May) and soon discovered that there were other ufologists staying there that weekend, including Nigel Stephenson, Ken Rogers, Jimmy Goddard and a party of NICAP/GB members.
That afternoon we learned that the NICAP/GB party had claimed to have sighted two, reddish cigar-shaped objects the previous night from a vantage point on Battlesbury Hill. This sighting took place, we were given to understand, in fulfilment of a prediction obtained during a sort of table-turning session. As we were not present at these events and have no further details at the time of writing, we have no comments to make on them.
During the Saturday afternoon and evening there was talk of a general expectation that "something big was going to happen" that night. We did not share this feeling, so the reason for it remains obscure to us.
Arthur Shuttlewood and his friend, Bob Strong, had organised a skywatch for the Saturday night. Apparently their intention was to take advantage of the Army ranges being open that weekend and to make an excursion to the deserted village of Imber. We joined the convoy in Warminster at the appointed time and soon perceived that some sort of argument was going on. It was not made clear to us just what the trouble was, but it seemed that Arthur Shuttlewood or Bob Strong thought that there were too many people in the convoy and, presumably, it was thought that the UFOs would be put off by the presence of a relatively large number of skywatchers concentrated in one group.
The leading cars in the convoy drove off unexpectedly and were soon lost to view, so the rest of us decided to drive up Cradle Hill, which was near at hand and as good a place as any for observing UFOs, by all accounts. Arrived at the top of Cradle Hill, we found that the rest of the party had gone there after all. A great argument was taking place: apparently some proposed to stay at Cradle Hill and others wanted to go to Imber, and among those who wanted to go to Imber there was disagreement over which route to take. Also, various wild rumours were being bandied about, one of them being that "the Army would shoot Shuttlewood if he drove on to the ranges". The whole business was very confusing and we would hesitate to pin the responsibility for this muddle on to any particular person or persons.
Eventually some of us left Cradle Hill and drove up to the ranges. When we reached the guardhouse, Shuttlewood and his friends were already there, having taken a short cut. We then followed some cars across the range to Imber and drew up about half a mile beyond the village to commence skywatching. The sky was rather cloudy and only a few stars were visible. Nothing unusual was to be seen for a time until one of us noticed a flash of lightning on the horizon in an easterly direction. The flashes continued to the east and south east. No thunder was heard, so the storms must have been a long way away.
The other cars went away, one by one, so we finally returned to the guardhouse to see if we could learn if Mr Shuttlewood was having any luck. There were several cars parked there when we arrived and we were told that Shuttlewood had got quite excited when the lightning commenced and said that it was definitely not lightning, but a manifestation of the "Thing". He had then driven off into the night, hoping to view it at closer quarters.
After some time Shuttlewood's car returned and he was soon giving the most extraordinary descriptions of what, to us, was merely lightning (1) produced by distant thunderstorms. His car then drove off. We remained a while longer and left at about 1.30 a.m., when it began to rain.
Shuttlewood's reactions to the display of lightning did nothing to diminish our scepticism concerning many of the UFOs allegedly seen during Warminster skywatches. If ordinary lightning can be transformed when seen with the "eye of faith", into something out of this world, one might perhaps be forgiven for supposing that other phenomena, both natural and artificial, are regularly being misinterpreted in similar fashion during such skywatches.
However, when this was suggested, in a review of Mr Shuttlewood's lecture at last year's BUFORA Northern Conference (2), great indignation was aroused. The opinions expressed in that review were based on information received from people with experience of skywatching at Warminster. For example, one report received from a reliable source (3) was an observation of a certain, very well-known ufologist pointing at a star and calling it "a definite UFO".
That weekend there was some discussion about a report by Arthur Shuttlewood and Bob Strong of a landing at Starr Hill. An account of this alleged incident had been published in the latest issue of SUFOA. (4) We learned that since this incident, different groups of enthusiasts had been to Starr Hill and had investigated a house from which "strange" lights were said to emanate. Some said the house was deserted and some said it was not. So, on the Sunday (28 May), Alan Sharp visited the place in question and found it to consist of a settlement of several farms and about a dozen workers' houses. It was discovered that the "deserted" house was merely not regularly lived in by the owner, who has a place elsewhere, but employees keep an eye on the premises and he pays visits. The rest of the dwellings in the vicinity are occupied.
The owner of the nearest farm to the east of the "deserted" house was interviewed and he said that he had never observed anything odd in the vicinity. he regarded the stories of strange lights, etc., with tolerant amusement and seemed to regard the Army as the source of genuine "unknown" observations. Various startling UFO incidents are said to have happened in the vicinity of a copse known as Colloway Clump. We visited this area and Alan Sharp enquired at New Farm, only a few hundred yards away from the Clump and in full view of it. The farmer and his son said they had never seen anything unusual in the vicinity of the copse and suggested that some well-known locals were overworking their powers of imagination. They also said that of all the people who had been poking around in the vicinity, not one had approached the farm for permission to investigate. A visit was made to one of the houses where strange noises (the "Warminster Sound") have been heard. The occupants were interviewed and samples were taken from the garden and the gutters(5). By all accounts, these reports of strange noises appear to be genuine. Some people have attempted to explain them away as being due to the activities of helicopters, but this theory is unconvincing in view of the descriptions given. On the other hand, it would seem to be somewhat rash to accept the popular notion that the noises are due to the activities of alien space craft before other possibilities, such as atmospheric electrical phenomena of an unusual nature, have been adequately explored.
On Sunday evening we learned that Mr Shuttlewood claimed to have had a "contact" that afternoon. Apparently, one of the "Aenstrians" telephoned him and Shuttlewood told him something to the effect that he would have to see him in the flesh if he was to be absolutely certain that the "Aenstrians" were not just hoaxers and slammed the phone down. A few minutes later there was a knock at the door and a spaceman was duly admitted. This being had a very high forehead and blue lips and had one or two things to say, including the prediction that a third world war would break out shortly. The apparition was also seen by other members of Shuttlewood's family.
Earlier in the day, Alan Sharp had been treated to a demonstration, by a sceptical Warminster resident, of the technique of making local calls from a coin-box phone without putting any money in the box. The reason for this demonstration was Shuttlewood's statement that the space people claimed to telephone him from a public box, but he never heard any money going in. (6) However, Mr Shuttlewood's latest claim would seem to dispose of the necessity of studying the technicalities of the telephone system. At this stage there is no useful comment we can make on the new contact claim.
Later that Sunday evening we went skywatching on Cradle Hill, accompanied by Ken Rogers and Nigel Stephenson. It was a clear night and we saw one aircraft, four meteors and a satellite, but no UFOs.
To sum up, then, the strange noises which originally drew attention to Warminster were almost certainly genuine observations. Also it would appear that there have been other observations in the area which are worthy of further investigation. However, there can be little doubt that the majority of UFO reports from Warminster are spurious. Our own experiences and a careful reading of published reports indicate that many ufologists seem to leave their critical faculties at home when they go to Warminster.
Notes and References
1. According to the Daily Weather Report of the British Meteorological Office (No. 38538, 28 May 1967), lightning, but no thunder, was reported during the period 2100-0300 GMT on the night of 27-28 May at Boscombe Down. A glance at the midnight (GMT) reports from other stations revealed that thunderstorms had been widespread in the southern half of the British Isles that evening.
2. "Warminster's Contactee", MUFORG Bulletin, October 1966
3. Private communication to the editor
4. Barry W. Woodgate, "Return to Warminster", SUFOA, March/April 1967
5. We hope to publish more about these observations in a future issue of the Bulletin.
6. Arthur Shuttlewood, "The Warminster Mystery", page 187
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