Ovni et vie extraterrestre: les mystères des Ovnis
Bonjour et bienvenue sur le forum "les mystères des ovnis",

Si vous êtes témoin de phénomènes inexpliqués, il est très important de témoigner en cliquant ici. N'hésitez pas à vous inscrire sur le forum en cliquant sur s'enregistrer.

Nous vous proposons de consulter les nombreux articles du site associé au forum. Vous y trouverez de nombreuses informations importantes et sérieuses. http://ovnis-ufo.org

Cordialement


Un site consacré à l'étude sérieuse des ovnis et de leur histoire - informations riches et pertinentes sur le phénomène des ovnis.
 
Ovni Accueil site PortailPublicationsFAQRechercherMembresS'enregistrerGroupesConnexionTémoignage ovniAccueil
Depuis 10 ans, le forum n'a cessé de grandir grâce à vous, en faisant aujourd'hui la première plateforme francophone par sa fréquentation.

Partagez | .
 

 (1959) L'observation du pilote Peter Killian aux USA

Voir le sujet précédent Voir le sujet suivant Aller en bas 
AuteurMessage
Benjamin.d
Responsable du forum
Responsable du forum
avatar



Masculin Age : 39
Nombre de messages : 12596
Inscription : 11/03/2007
Localisation : France
Emploi : Privé
Passions : Ufologie, Histoire, lecture
Règlement : Règlement

MessageSujet: (1959) L'observation du pilote Peter Killian aux USA   Dim 28 Déc 2008, 20:33

L'observation de Peter Killian (1959)

L'Armée de l'Air essaie toujours de soulever des doutes au sujet des pilotes qui occasionnellement défient le black-out et témoignent de leurs observations d'OVNIs dans la presse publique. Par exemple, il y a eu le cas célèbre de Killian de 1959, un incident qui s'est produit avant que le black out ait semblé être entièrement effectif.


Le pilote a payé au prix de sa carrière le black-out observé par l'air force

Dans la nuit du 24 Février, 1959, un DC-6 d'American Airlines volait à travers la Pennsylvanie vers Detroit. Aux commandes, se trouvaient le Capitaine Peter W. Killian et son copilote John Dee, et la cabine passagers était bien remplie. Soudainement trois grands objets, brillamment lumineux, ronds ou en forme de disque, sont apparus dans le ciel tout près. L'un d'eux a manoeuvré près du DC-6 comme s'il se livrait à un bref examen, puis est allé de nouveau rejoindre ses compagnons. Par la suite les trois ont filé au loin dans l'obscurité d'où ils étaient venus. Le Capitaine Killian, un homme avec 15 ans de vol et 4 millions de miles de vol au sein des lignes aériennes derrière lui, a raconté sa curieuse histoire à la presse. L'Armée de l'Air a immédiatement réagi contre lui. Ce qu'il vraiment vu, a indiqué l'Armée de l'Air, étaient un groupe de trois étoiles apparaissant et disparaissant derrière des nuages dispersés.

Killian a répondu que c'était impossible. "Le ciel était absolument dégagé de tout nuages au-dessus de nous. Les enregistrements de l'agence fédérale de l'aviation montrent que nous volions à 8.500 pieds. Les nuages étaient à 3.500. Il reste à l'Armée de l'Air à expliquer comment nous avons vu des étoiles à travers des nuages à 5.000 pieds au-dessous de nous. "

American Airlines a alors apporté son soutien à son pilote et ils ont annoncé que d'autres pilotes avaient souvent rencontré les OVNIS dans le même secteur. La discussion est devenue plus chaude. Dans une interview avec un reporter du New York Herald Tribune, un porte parole de l'Armée de l'Air a déclaré que certain témoins d'OVNIS "étaient tellement ivres qu'ils ne pouvaient pas se rappeler ce qu'ils ont vu." Cette flèche n'a pas visé nommément Killian, mais c'était d'une extrême gravité de lancer de telles insinuations dans ces circonstances.

D'autres gens se sont maintenant joint à la discussion. A Washington, le membre du congrès Sam Friedel, du Maryland a offert au Capitaine Killian "une journée devant le tribunal" s'il voulait venir à la capitale. Sachant évidemment que la théorie des "étoiles" ne résisterait pas si ceci se produisait, l'Armée de l'Air a proposé à la hâte une nouvelle explication: Killian avait vu un camion-citerne KC-97 réapprovisionner en combustible trois jets B-47. C'était un non-sens également. Tous les vols d'avions aux États-Unis, y compris les ravitaillement en vol, sont rapportés au FAA et à la Commande de la Défense Aérien. S' il y avait eu une opération de ravitaillement en vol cette nuit au-dessus de la Pennsylvanie, le fait aurait été connue et publié immédiatement comme explication - et non pas "découvert" deux semaines plus tard. De toute façon, il est inconcevable qu'un pilote vétéran n'aurait pas su identifier des avions normaux. Et il y avait eu d'autres faits dans ce cas que l'Armée de l'Air ne pouvait pas éliminer. Spécifiquement:

Le copilote Dee et les passagers ont également vu l'engin étranger. Ils ont corroboré le récit du Capitaine Killian.

Deux autres équipages de American Airlines , volant à proximité, ont été alertés par radio. Ils ont également vu les OVNIS. Trois avions de la United Airlines se trouvaient sur des routes aériennes voisines cette nuit là. Ils n'ont eu aucun contact avec le capitaine Killian ou les autres équipages de American Airlines. Mais, eux aussi, ont vu et ont rapporté en privé les trois OVNIS. Tout ceci aurait pu être expliqué au cours d'une discussion publique. Mais alors, brutalement, le Capitaine Killian a cessé de discuter. Dans un rapport au NICAP, son épouse a dit que American Airlines avaient été chargées par l'Armée de l'Air de le museler. En date de mi 1964, il était toujours en cours d'interdiction de dire quoi que ce soit de plus en public au sujet de cette nuit étrange de 1959.

L'observation dans flying saucers

L'article ci-dessous est paru dans le numéro de Juillet 1959 du magazine "Flying Saucers" de Ray Palmer.

La vérité à propos des observations de la "ceinture d'Orion"

Le 24 Février 1959, un avion de ligne quadrimoteur DC-6 de American Airlines commandé par Peter Killian, a aperçu trois soucoupes volantes. L'équipage et les passagers les ont observées pendant 45 minutes. D'autres avions de lignes ont été contacté par radio et ont également rapporté voir les mêmes trois objets. Voici ce qui a été une réfutation indubitable à l'affirmation de l'Armée de l'Air qu'il n'existe rien de tel que des soucoupes volantes. Pourtant, en quelques jours, cette observation est devenu l'étendard le plus incroyable dans l'histoire des soucoupes volantes. A cause d'elle, les pilotes de ligne aérienne sont devenus les membres involontaires d'une nouvelle "société de gens en colère." Quels sont les faits de ce cas historique?

Afin d'évaluer ce qui a été appelé "l'observation de la ceinture d'Orion," il est nécessaire de décrire l'observation dans tout ses détails précis avant de continuer par diverses explications et analyses offertes par diverses autorités, et par les voltes-faces plus qu'acrobatiques du porte-parole des relations publiques de l'Armée de l'Air, des renseignements et des mises sous secret. Tout a commencé à 19:10, le 24 Février 1959 à bord d'un DC-6 ayant quitté l'aéroport de Newark à destination de Detroit, vol direct. Aux commandes, il avait le capitaine Peter Killian, un pilote avec vingt ans d'expérience, dont quinze dans le pilotage des avions de lignes, totalisant plus de quatre millions de miles. Pour une fois, l'histoire a fiat les gros titres des journaux nationaux, et, typique des récits exceptionnellement précis qui ont été publiés, il y a celui présenté par le Detroit Times, que nous citons pour son reportage correct, en particulier celui présenté par Al Leaderman, rédacteur vedette tu Times:

Trente-cinq passagers à bord d'un avion DC-6 de American Airlines à destination de Detroit ont observé avec stupéfaction la nuit passée trois "soucoupes volantes" illuminées qui ont escorté l'avion à travers le ciel nocturne pendant 45 minutes.

A la fois les passagers et les membres de l'équipage à bord de l'avion qui a quitté Newark pour un vol direct vers Detroit à 19:10 ont regardé les phénomènes tout en se remettant en cause, s'interrogeant es uns les autres à propos de leur capacité à observer et leur santé mentale.

Le plus étonné était probablement étaient capitaine Peter Killian de Syosset, New York, qui a piloté des avions de passager pendant 15 ans et "n'a jamais vu n'importe quoi comme cela avant."

Killian a même contacté par radio deux autres avions de American Airlines volant à proximité pour s'assurer que je ne voyais pas des bogues de foudre dans l'habitacle."

LES DEUX AUTRES capitaines appelés par Killian l'ont assuré qu'il ne rêvait pas – ils voyaient les soucoupes, eux aussi.

Le capitaine et le copilote, John Dee de Nyack, New York, ont dit qu'ils ont perdu les trois objets étranges dans la brume quand ils ont commencé leur descente pour atterrir à Metropolitain Airport tandis qu'ils étaient au-dessus du lac Erié.

N. D. Puscas, 41 ans, du 30835 Barton, Garden City, un des passagers, a dit aux Tomes que bien qu'il ne croyait pas aux soucoupes volantes il a vu les objets étranges "danser dans le ciel."

Puscas, directeur général de la fabrication de la division de Curtis Wright à Utica, a demandé qu'avant que sa version de ce qu'il a vu soit imprimée, elle soit corroborée par le pilote.

"Je ne veux pas être le seul cité," a expliqué Puscas. "Les gens pourraient avoir à l'idée que je sois l'idiot du village."

Killian a dit: "Nous volions autour 8.500 pieds entre Philipsburg et Bradford, Pennsylvanie, à 20:45, quand j'ai regardé au loin au sud et j'ai vu trois lumières jaunâtres en ligne au-dessus.

"Au début, j'ai pensé que c'était la ceinture d'Orion (un groupe d'étoiles formant une constellation) mais ensuite j'ai à nouveau regardé et j'ai vu à la fois la ceinture d'Orion et les objets étranges."

"Quand Dee a vu l'expression sur mon visage il m'a demandé si mes yeux étaient fatigués. J'ai alors pointé le doigt dans la direction des "choses" et je lui ai demandé s'il y avait des bogues de foudre dans l'habitacle."

"Les objets n'étaient nullement près de l'avion, mais se déplaçaient vers lui par intervalles, repartaient en arrière à nouveau, et changeaient leur place dans la formation tout en suivant la progression de l'avion, qui voyageait à 350 miles par heure."

A l'observatoire de McMath-Hulbert de l'université du Michigan, à Lake Angelus, le Dr. Orren C. Mohler, sous-directeur, dit:

"Il n'y a aucune explication astronomique pour les observations rapportées. Je ne connais rien qui pourrait expliquer les objets décrits et ce qui s'est produit dans les cieux la nuit passée."

Décidant que cela pourrait être un dessert-surprise pour ses passagers, Killian leur a parlé par l'intercom.

Il a commencé sur un ton léger en leur disant qu'il ne voudrait pas leur donner l'impression qu'il perdait la boule mais qu'il pensait que quelques "soucoupes volantes" suivaient l'avion.

Il a introduit son commentaire à l'intercom avec:

"Ne vous énervez pas. J'ai seulement bu une tasse de thé avec mon dîner."

Les passagers ont regardé dehors, ont vu les objets et ont commencé à essayer de deviner ce qu'ils pourraient être.

"Cela ne pourrait pas être une apparition," a poursuivi Killian, "parce que tout le monde dans l'avion les ont aussi vus.

"Au total, les objets ont voyagé dans notre direction pendant environ 45 minutes," a dit Killian.

"Pendant ce temps où j'ai exercé une surveillance de l'écran radar mais je n'y ai rien vu."

"A un moment j'ai pensé que ce pourrait être une opération de ravitaillement en vol de jets à haute altitude, mais l'intensité variable des lumières et les positions changeantes des objets m'ont fait rejeter cette théorie."

KILLIAN A INDIQUÉ qu'il a également contacté par radio la tour à Metropolitan Airport pour les informer de l'observation CIRVIS. CIRVIS était, dit-il, une agence civile qui étudie les objets volants non identifiés – les OVNIS.

Killian, qui vole depuis 1929, avec plus de quatre millions de miles de trajets aériens commerciaux, a indiqué que les objets dégageaient "une lueur jaunâtre."

Le capitaine est marié et a trois enfants. Son épouse est Kay; les enfants, Peter M., 14 ans; Stephen, 13 ans, et Kathleen, 6 ans.

Puscas a fait la louange des actions de Killian, son information au passagers et la discussion avec eux au sujet de l'observation.

"La manière dont il a donné la nouvelle à été très intelligente. Personne n'a paniqué ou n'a montré le moindre signe d'inquiétude. Chacun a immédiatement commencé à montrer un vif intérêt pour ce qui se passait. Il a fait du bon travail."

"Il n'y avait pas un nuage dans le ciel quand j'ai regardé dehors et ai vu les objets en formation précise. Ils étaient d'aspect rond et de temps en temps sont devenus plus lumineux, plus incandescent l'un que l'autre en fonction de leur déplacement vers plus près de l'avion."

"J'avais fait ce même voyage un certain nombre de fois parce que le siège social est à New York mais je n'ai jamais vécu n'importe quoi de pareil auparavant."

Les deux hôtesses de l'avion, Edna Le Gate, 22 ans, et Beverly Pingree, 25 ans, ont indiqué qu'aujourd'hui encore elles étaient troublées par ces objets.

Mlle Le Gate, de Walton, Arizona, dont l'anniversaire a eu lieu hier, a dit:

"Je ne sais pas ce qu'ils étaient. Je suis une fanatique de science-fiction, mais je sais ce que j'ai vu."

Il y a les faits de base. En plus de cela, nous pouvons énumérer ce qui suit, déterminé par des interview consécutives: la visibilité était de 100 miles. Il y avait des nuages dispersés au-dessous de l'avion, à 5.000 pieds. Tout le ciel au-dessus de cette couche était absolument dégagé. Le Capitaine Killian a d'abord estimé que les objets étaient à un mille de distance, mais il dit que c'était juste une impression, puisqu'il ne peut pas estimer leur taille. En y rependant, il a formé l'opinion qu'ils n'étaient pas si proches. Le DC-6 volait à 8.500 pieds quand les objets ont été aperçus. Toutes les lumières à l'intérieur de l'avion ont été éteintes pour permettre aux passagers de mieux voir. Deux autres avions de American Airlines ont été contactés par radio. L'un d'eux a informé Killian qu'il avait observé les objets depuis de dix à quinze minutes quand Killian l'a appelé par radio. Cet avion était au Nord de la position de Killian. L'autre avion était proche de Toledo, et il a aisément discerné les objets quand il les a rechercher en en fonction de la direction donnée par Killian.

Pendant ce temps, des observations indépendantes étaient faites par des équipages de United Airlines. Le Capitaine A. D. Yates a rapporté dépister les objets visuellement de 8:40 P.M. à 9:10 P.M., entre Lockhaven, en Pennsylvanie et Youngstown, Ohio. L'ingénieur de vol L. E. Baney a également été un témoin sur cet avion. En outre, les vols United Airlines 321 et 937 ont rencontré les objets alors qu'ils volaient à l'Ouest de Newark. Tandis que les observations continuaient, la discussion par radio à leur sujet a été poursuivie entre les avions. Tous les pilotes et ingénieurs de vol étaient d'accord quant à ce qu'ils voyaient, et ont déclaré qu'ils étaient des véhicules séparés volant en formation, duquel ils ont de temps en temps légèrement dévié, seulement pour retourner à la formation.

Les témoins au sol ont ajouté leur confirmation. A Akron, dans l'Ohio le groupe de recherche Akron UFO, une organisation d'observateurs de soucoupes volantes, a aperçu les trois objets entre 21:15 et 21:20 P.M.. Plus de 100 rapports séparés des soucoupes volantes sont arrivées dans les rédactions de la région de New York, du New Jersey, de la Pennsylvanie, de l'Ohio, du Michigan et de Wisconsin pour la même nuit, toute convenant généralement quant au nombre d'objets, bien qu'il y ait eu des exemples dispersés d'un objet ou de deux, voire de six.

Plus tard, Hugh McPherson de la station radio WCHS, de Charleston, en Virginie Occidentale, a enregistré une interview entre lui et le capitaine Killian, dans laquelle des faits additionnels ont été révélés au sujet de l'observation. Les objets, ont indiqué Killian, ont changé de couleur pendant l'observation. Le dernier des trois objets a changé de position plusieurs fois, montant plus haut que les deux autres. Ensuite il plongeait vers le bas sous les deux autres avant de reprendre sa position habituelle à l'arrière. En même temps, un d'eux a disparu, en laissant seulement deux. A un autre moment, chacun des trois objets a disparu, pour réapparaître soudainement. Les trois objets ont été vus dans la section du ciel où la constellation Orion est visible. Cependant, capitaine Killian a eu les trois étoiles de la ceinture d'Orion et les trois OVNIS en vue en même temps, et dit qu'il ne pourrait pas avoir confondu l'un avec l'autre. Les passagers dans l'avion de Killian l'avaient invité à voler plus près, pour mieux voir, mais il a considéré que cela n'était pas conforme aux règlements de sécurité de faire cela.

Il est intéressant maintenant de répéter les divers commentaires de l'Armée de l'Air sur ces observations, comme ils ont été publiés. Le 28 Février l'Armée de l'Air a dit: "les pilotes ont pu avoir vu des étoiles au lieu "d'objets volants non identifiés" à cause de la vague récente de rapports de soucoupes volantes. L'agence technique du renseignement de l'Armée de l'Air à la base aérienne de Wright-Patterson, Dayton, Ohio, a donné son opinion. Elle a indiqué que l'équipage d'un vol de transport de l'Armée de l'Air entre Washington et Dayton a rédigé un rapport semblable à ceux des équipages de deux avions de lignes commerciaux qui ont rapporté voir des objets mobiles lumineux dans les cieux dans la nuit du Mardi, 24 Février 1959 dans la région Pennsylvanie - Ohio. Le transport de l'Armée de l'Air volait sous une couche de nuages dispersés à environ 8.500 pieds d'altitude. Des experts de l'agence technique du renseignement (le mot renseignement est purement technique) disent qu'ils pensent que les pilotes ont pu avoir aperçu des étoiles, particulièrement "la formation d'Orion."

Une lettre du Major Laurent J. Tacker, officier exécutif, Division de l'Information Publique, bureau du service d'information, département de l'Armée de l'Air, Washington, D.C., à Bob Barry, directeur de l'Aerial Phenomena Investigations Society, 328 6ème rue du nord, Olean, New York, déclare ce qui suit:

"L'observation de American Airlines du 24 Février à New Bradford, Pennsylvanie, s'est avérée être d'un avion du type B-47 accomplissant un ravitaillement en vol à partir d'avions-citernes KC-97. Le rapport du pilote d'American Airlines a confirmé ceci et les enregistrements de l'Armée de l'Air prouvent que trois avions du type B-47 étaient à proximité de Bradford, Pennsylvanie, sur une opération de réapprovisionnement en combustible de nuit. L'avion-citerne a plusieurs groupes de lumières qui à une certaine distance sembleraient être une ou plusieurs lumières. La durée d'une opération de ravitaillement en vol est variable, peut durer bien au-dessus d'une heure, selon le type d'opération. Un KC-97 réapprovisionnant en combustible un B-47 volera approximativement à une altitude de 17.000 pieds à environ 230 noeuds. Ceci expliquerait les lumières qui étaient approximativement à 30 degrés au-dessus de l'horizon de l'avion de American Airlines et les a vu pendant 40 minutes."



Même dans cette lettre, nous avons des confusions. De l'un ou de l'autre, soit c'était un B-47 et deux avions-citernes KC-97; ou c'était trois B-47s et un nombre non spécifié d'avions citernes. De plus, seul l'avion-citerne a les lumières qui pourraient expliquer les observations du pilote d'American Airlines, et elles devraient avoir la faculté de la dissociation, d'une manière ou d'une autre, de sorte que celle montée sur l'arrière ait pu s'élever au-dessus des deux autres, plonger au-dessous d'eux, puis revenir au-dessus. Si le Major Tacker ne peut pas indiquer à partir des enregistrements de l'Armée de l'Air exactement quels genres et quel nombre d'avions était à proximité cette nuit, il semblerait que les enregistrements de l'Armée de l'Air sont vraiment vagues, si des enregistrements tels que ceux décrit existent réellement. Peut-être vaudrait-il mieux considérer la Division du major Tacker comme une Division de Désinformation Publique, un bureau des services d'information fausses (services de valeur douteuse pour le public).

Le jour suivant l'observation de Killian, le New York Herald Tribune, souhaitant lui donner des faits à ses lecteurs, a questionné l'Armée de l'Air au sujet de l'observation, partagée par six équipages American Airlines et United Airlines dans la nuit du 24 Février. Le 1er Mars, la réponse de l'Armée de l'Air est apparue dans le journal. Il y avait beaucoup de choses dans la réponse qui n'avaient rien à voir avec l'observation du 24 Février comme des références aux "gens qui ne se rappellent plus de rien quand ils dessaoulent le jour suivant"; les gens qui sont trompés par des objets ordinaires ou sont de purs menteurs. Non, l'Air Force n'a pas dit que Killian et ses cinq camarades pilotes étaient des ivrognes, mais l'implication était là à cause de ces allusions inutiles. L'Armée de l'Air sait très bien que les règlements des compagnies aérienne interdisent le boire, en particulier avant des vols. La réponse, en fait, était du noyage de poisson, elle stigmatisait les équipages aériens comme étant des observateurs incompétents, ou qui se trompent, et doutait de l'intelligence de tous les passagers qui ont vu les objets volants.

La station radio WOR, à New York, lors de l'émission "Long John", a interviewé le copilote Dee. Ici Dee a expliqué que le ciel au-dessus de l'avion avait été "très dégagé." Ila également été révélé que l'équipage de l'avion avait réellement considéré la possibilité que de ce dont ils étaient témoin était une opération de ravitaillement en vol, mais qu'ils l'avaient rejeté, excepté qu'ils ont vérifié après leur atterrissage si de tels vols étaient réellement en marche cette nuit et ils ont obtenu une réponse négative.

Négligé par l'Armée de l'Air, il y a un des facteurs les plus importants de l'observation de 45 minutes, qui sans aucun doute est négligé parce que même la gymnastique mentale de l'Armée de l'Air ne peut pas le réfuter, spécifiquement la surveillance constante par radar exercée par le capitaine Killian et son équipage pendant l'observation. A aucun moment les objets n'ont été détectés sur l'écran du radar. Il ne peut y avoir aucun doute que si ces objets avaient réellement été des B-47 ou KC-97, il y aurait eu là un signal puissant reçu sur les écrans de radar de tous les avions inclus dans l'observation. Ce un seul fait élimine n'importe quelle opération de ravitaillement en vol. L'évaluation du capitaine Killian de la distance est changée, naturellement, s'étendant de un mille à une distance inconnue, mais basé sur les angles des observations des autres avions, la distance ne peut pas être trop grande. Certainement, à tout moment, elle était dans la portée des radars.

American Airlines, contrairement à sa politique habituelle, a semblé être suffisamment troublé pour publier un rapport public le 26 Février indiquant que ses pilotes avaient eu un nombre considérable d'observations dans le Midwest, où cette observation particulière s'était produite.

Interrogé au sujet des changements de couleur des objets, le capitaine Killian a déclaré plus tard qu'ils avaient changé de jaune en blanc bleuâtre, et s'étaient étendus d'une luminosité extrême à un effacement provisoire. Aucun pattern n'était perceptible dans ces fluctuations, et apparemment aucune tentative de signalisation intelligente.

Dans le rapport du Major Tacker, la vitesse des avions de ravitaillement en vol allégués a été indiquée comme 230 noeuds, soit autour de 270 miles par heure. Cependant, une fois interrogé, le capitaine Killian a dit que c'était non seulement les règlements de sûreté qui l'ont persuadé de ne pas chasser les objets mystérieux sur la demande des passagers, mais le fait qu'il était évident qu'il n'avait pas une vitesse suffisante pour gagner du terrain sur les OVNIS, puisque sa propre vitesse était de 350 miles par heure.

Si c'était le but de l'Air Force d'avertir que tous les pilotes de lignes aériennes seraient ouvertement ridiculisés s'ils rapportaient des observations de soucoupe volante, cela a fonctionné à un certain degré, parce que beaucoup de pilotes de ligne aérienne ont déclaré qu'ils ne rapporteront jamais aucun objet inhabituel aperçu dans le ciel. Cependant, d'autres pilotes ne prennent pas le sujet tellement négativement. Ils ont été réveillés, et un mouvement est sur pied pour former une organisation privée pour combiner leurs témoignages et pour les présenter au Congrès pour forcer la prise en considération de ce sujet.

Le Newark Star-Ledger a publié un rapport indiquant que l'administration de l'aéronautique civile avait détecté les objets volants non identifiés par le radar dans toutes les régions des Etats-Unis. Si la vérité était connu au sujet du repérage radar des OVNIS, le résultat pourrait être étonnant, en effet.

Un groupe de cinquante pilotes commerciaux qui volent à Newark, qui est un des centres de trafic de passagers et de fret les plus actif dans le monde, sont de l'opinion que la politique de l'Armée de l'Air du secret sur les OVNIS est tout simplement stupide. Chacun des cinquante pilotes avait fait un rapport indiquant à l'Armée de l'Air qu'il avait vu au moins une soucoupe volante. Chacun avait été interrogé et puis avait du entendre qu'en fait, il avait vu un mirage. Pour le décourager, il avait alors été averti que racontait à quiconque d'autre ce qu'il avait vu, il pourrait en prendre pour dix ans en prison pour avoir révélé des secrets militaires. Ceci ne semble aucunement raisonnable aux pilotes. Si les OVNIS sont des mirages, comme le prétend l'Armée de l'Air, pourquoi tout ce secret? Et si ils sont des secrets militaires, pourquoi le CAA prend-il la peine de les suivre par radar?

"Ils sont très stricts quand il s'agit de nous demander de rapporter les mystérieux objets - ensuite ils sont carrément insultant avec nous quand nous leur disons avoir vraiment vu quelque chose." Telle était la substance de la plainte des pilotes.

Vraiment l'attitude de l'Armée de l'Air devient tout à fait ridicule, et en fait, un service réellement rendu à la nation dans l'ensemble. Il est temps qu'une politique plus respectueuse soit adoptée, et plus efficace, moins orientée pour engendrer la méfiance sur les capacités des Armées de l'Air dans l'esprit du public. Certainement, ce n'est pas trop que de demander que tout le personnel militaire se mette enfin à se conduire "en gentlemen," dans la tradition des forces armées américaines.

L'incident de la "ceinture d'Orion" a, en effet, été un coup de semonce pour le renseignement de l'Armée de l'Air, et s'avérera très certainement plus embarrassant à l'avenir. Il ne sera plus possible de maintenir la colère des pilotes compétents et des équipages de nos lignes aériennes commerciales sous contrôle, et de les intimider au sujet de ce qu'ils savent être des faits et pas des illusions, ni du "delirium tremens" du à du whiskey. Il n'y a personne de plus responsable qu'un pilote de ligne aérienne commerciale, ni de plus intelligent.

Ce que le Capitaine Killian et une centaine d'autres personnes compétentes ont vu dans la nuit du 24 Février 1959, n'était pas un groupe d'étoiles connues sous le nom de "ceinture d'Orion." Vous pouvez être sûrs de cela. Et l'autre chose dont vous pouvez être sûr est que les annonces publiques de l'Armée de l'Air au sujet d'observation sont du pur bredouillage. C'est irresponsable et insuffisant, et les citoyens Américains ont tout droit d'exiger qu'un changement immédiat intervienne.

Nous nous demandons ce qui se produirait si tous les pilotes de lignes aériennes portaient un bon appareil photo avec téléobjectif à tout moment? Vu le nombre des observations par des pilotes commerciaux, il devrait bientôt y avoir un nombre impressionnant de bonnes photos de la "ceinture d'Orion" à présenter au public. FLYING SAUCER offre d'imprimer n'importe quelle photo, même si elle est présenté de façons anonyme, du moment qu'il peut être montré que c'est une image légitime d'une observation tue par des pilotes qui peuvent ne rien avoir à gagner à la rapporter sauf les insultes publiques et les attaques de leur intelligence, intégrité et capacités.

http://www.ufologie.net/htm/killian59f.htm

LE NEW YORK TIMES, LE CAS KILLIAN-DEE, 1959:

L'article ci-dessous est paru dans le quotidien The New York Times, le 26 Février 1959.



UN PILOTE RAPPORTE DES SOUCOUPES

Il dit que les passagers et l'équipage ont vu des lumières

DETROIT, 25 Février (AP) -- Le pilote d'un avion de passager DC-6 de American Airlines a dit aujourd'hui que trois objets mystérieux qui ressemblaient à des soucoupes brillantes ont semblé accompagner l'avion pendant quarante-cinq minutes la nuit passée lors de son vol direct de Newark, New Jersey, vers Detroit.

Le Capitaine Peter Killian de Syosset, L.I., a dit que d'autres membres de l'équipage et les trente-cinq passagers ont également vu les objets volants. L'avion avait quitté Newark à 19:10.

Le capitaine Killian et le copilote John Dee de Nyacek, N.Y., ont dit qu'ils ont perdu de vue les trois objets dans la brume.

Le Capitaine Killian a dit qu'il a communiqué par radio avec deux autres avions de American Airlines volant à proximité de son avion pour s'assurer que "je ne voyais pas des effets de foudre dans l'habitacle." Il a dit que deux autres capitaines lui ont indiqué par radio en réponse qu'ils avaient aussi vu les objets volants.

Transcription du texte original:

PILOT REPORTS SAUCERS
Says Airliner Passengers and Crew Saw Lights

DETROIT, Feb. 25 (AP) -- The pilot of an American Airlines DC-6 passenger plane said today that three mysterious object that looked like shining saucers appeared to accompany the plane for forty-five minutes last night on its nonstop flight from Newark, N.J., to Detroit.

Capt. Peter Killian of Syosset, L.I., said other members of the crew and the thirty-five passengers also saw the flying objects. The plane left Newark at 7:10 P.M.

Captain Killian and Co-pilot John Dee of Nyacek, N.Y., said they lost the three objects in the haze.

Captain Killian said he radioed two other American Airlines planes flying in the vicinity of his ship to make sure "I wasn't seeing lightning bugs in the cockpit." He said both other captains radioed back that they had seen the flying objects too.

 Peter Killian
Home

It is 7:10 p.m., on Feb. 24, 1959, and you are Capt. Peter Killian.

In about an hour you'll cut the automatic pilot and bring your immense airliner down, down, down, out of this clear beautiful night - down through the clouds below you onto the spacious runway at the Detroit airport.

When you bring down the flaps and drop into the "overcast" now more than 3,000 ft. below you, you will be temporarily lost in another world, a world of tumultuous winds, and haze - with only the "beep-beep-beep" reassuring you that you are still somewhere in the world. Then you will see the lights of the city and then the airstrip, right where the flight pattern and the radar and your flight engineer said it would be. From Newark, N. J., the flight has been uneventful, as all good flights are. Still you will be glad to sit down in Detroit, though you mull over what you will do that night. After all, your wife and kids are in Syosset, N. Y. where you have left them at home. Maybe you will go to a movie, or maybe sit around the restaurant awhile, chatting with other pilots.

You'd better have the stewardess bring the tray now, for though the flight has not been a long one, you are a bit tired, and hungry. And after all this meal came for free, along with your pride in flying an American Airlines flagship.

"I thought this flight was first class!" you kid Beverly, the hostess.

You've used the joke before, and she gives you the old answer, "Sorry no liquor for pilots. You know the rules, sir. Besides, first class stops at the propellers."

She knows you seldom touch alcohol, even on the ground.

"Now how about the tip for the hostess, Captain!"

"Honey, you know the rules," you kid right back.

Co-pilot John Dee speaks up with something like, "What do they say about lovin'," and Beverly makes as if she is going to hit him.

You settle back and break the salt container, sprinkle it on the neatly-packed trayful of food.

Then something outside the window either catches your attention, or you're looking out as you always do, by habit, every few seconds through the corner of your eye.

Then you automatically turn and look around the cockpit. It isn't reflections you see. But what is it?

Three lighted things hang out there, too big, too bright to be stars. Probably the constellation Orion, which can do funny things, viewed from a plane in the sky. You look again. You DO see the constellation Orion, but at the same time you see the other things too!

One of them disappears, and now there are only two. The things had been very bright when you first noticed them, but now they have dimmed almost out of sight. Suddenly the other object comes back into view, and all three of them start getting bright again. It hurts your eyes to look at them.

"Take a look over there!" you tell John; then the navigator looks up from work and whistles.

All three of you see on of the objects suddenly lag behind the others, then, just as suddenly, pull up with them again.

The other two are probably scared, like you are, until you get used to the idea of watching the things, which by now have pulled ahead of the plane and are now dropping back to pace you again.

"Well, I guess it's THEM. We've heard about them so much we might as well see them too," John spoke up, with pretended gravity.

But nobody comes out and says "flying saucers" - not even the more respectable term, "UFO."

While the others whistle under their breaths and make some more jokes to hide their natural concern, you're mulling over another thought in your mind. One of your friends was made to appear rather ridiculous a few months back. He saw the damned things too. They interviewed him all night after a long flight, very understandingly and courteously. The next day headquarters came out with a news release which made him look like a fool. They not only explained away what he had seen, but, along with the release, some official had made the remark that people who see flying saucers "can't remember anything when they sober up next day."

You push a switch, and the two hostesses are in the cockpit with the dispatch usual to the rigid discipline among crew members. The other two men point and the girls, Edna LeGate and Beverly Pingree, are seen dumfoundedly gazing at the objects too.

Whatever it is, you are morally obligated, as well as under orders, to report it. But some of your friends lately have been just forgetting what they see in the skies. They don't want to be ridiculed the next day.

You ask one of the hostesses, "anyone back there who isn't enjoying the flight?"

She knows you mean is there anyone who has been nervous during the flight, and that you are considering calling the attention of the passengers to the things.

"We have an old lady who keeps imagining the wing is going to fall off, but I think she's enjoying the possibility that something might go wrong. She probably just wants to talk to somebody."

If you tell the passengers you'll have witnesses. Then they CAN'T laugh it all off when you make the report.

"Walk back casually and let me know if I'm exciting anyone," you tell the girls.

"Hello, this is Captain Peter Killian. Not that handsome guy who walked up the aisle an hour ago - he was the co-pilot."

That always got a pleasant laugh.

"We're approaching Detroit and they tell us the weather's fine there. You'll have about half an hour though before the "no-smoke" signal. I think I'll have one myself."

What would be something funny you could say about now to get into the subject?

"I just had a cup of tea. I WISH it were something else, but only passengers are allowed anything stronger."

"Are any of you girls back there wearing anything purple? I hope not, for if you'll look out the left window, you'll see some purple people eaters."

"maybe those lights are the flying saucers that go with my tea cup!"

"Seriously, don't worry about the lights. They're a long way off and much higher. They always turn out to be some conventional object, but nevertheless they are responsible for these flying saucer stories we hear. Personally I don't think there's much to all these tales."

"They're eating it up," Beverly, stepping into the cockpit, whispers, as if the drone of the props would not drown out anything she told me. "Nobody seems to be afraid, except one fellow. He's been reading a flying saucer magazine for the past two hours."

"Good."

When you land, you've already radioed in your report, though you pale at reading the papers the next morning. But the public cannot help believing a planeload of passengers, even if they are told pilots are daffy.

Next day the papers and the wire services are after you. But one fellow, Hugh MCPherson, of a radio station, WCHC, Charleston, W. Va., has a different angle: he simply calls you up on the telephone, tells you that you are on the air, and would you please tell him about the saucers.

(And there, through the courtesy of Hugh, is an actual transcript of the tape-recorded interview):

"There Must Be Something To It"

HUGH : Cap t . Killian, how about telling our listeners about your flight last night to Detroit, Mich.

KILLIAN : I'll try my best. I was on a flight from Newark, N. J., to Detroit, non-stop, and the flight was carrying me through Philipsburg, Pa. - through Bradford, Erie, and directly across Lake Erie, on to Detroit. My flight was 8,500 ft., and I was flying by visual flight rules above an overcast. The overcast was roughly 5,000 ft., and above the clouds ceiling and visibility were both unlimited.

Roughly about a quarter 'til nine while I was having my dinner (laughing) like all pilots do, once in a while . . .

HUGH : Yes, you gotta do that . . .

KILLIAN : I noticed out of my left window a - there were three lights out on my left side at nine o'clock position. * These three lights maintained this relative position for from 35 to 40 minutes. Their color was from a yellow to a light orange and these three lights were in horizontal position, and they represented - or rather assumed the same look as the belt of the constellation Orion. This position was maintained, however, the third object which was the last one in the line occasionally dropped back somewhat, also gained altitude. But generally speaking, they maintained the same position . . .
* By "o'clock" Capt. Killian is not speaking of time throughout the interview, but is using the terminology by which the relative positions of aerial objects (such as other planes) are described. - G.B.

HUGH : Go right ahead, Captain.

KILLIAN : Occasionally, they speeded up quite a bit and pulled ahead to almost directly, let's say at 11:30 o'clock to my position, and then they would slow down again and drop back to the right off my wing tip. As I say, this went on for 35 to 40 minutes. It shook me up slightly when I first noticed them, but after looking at them for awhile I sorta got used to the idea. But anyhow, the very big thing that struck me noticeably was the brilliance or luminosity of their color. It would go from a very light dim to a very bright color - then it would go back to dim again. And during this period, occasionally the light would be extinguished completely, and I would see only two of them and maybe it would come back again and there would be three; then two lights would go out, and there would be only one; occasionally all three would go out.

HUGH : Could you tell the distance these objects were from your plane?

KILLIAN : No, I couldn't. It was impossible because I didn't know their size nor their altitude. They were definitely higher than I was. It would be the same thing if a person would have a light in the middle of a dark field at night. It would be impossible for you to know - just looking at the light - if this light were 100 ft. or 1,000 ft. away from you - for if you don't know the size, you don't get the idea of distance.

HUGH : Well, Captain, you've been flying for 15 years. Have you ever seen anything like this before?

KILLIAN : No sir, in all my period of flying, I have never in my life seen anything even remotely resembling this - in 15 years of the airlines, and also about 13 years other than that commercially. The total of about 28 years.

HUGH : How many passengers did you have on the flight?

KILLIAN : I had about 40 passengers. After I first noticed the objects, I drew this to the attention of my co-pilot, also my flight engineer. And we three sat there - the stewardesses came up, the two stewardesses - and the five of us, actually, sat there and watched them for quite a while. In the meantime I was mulling over in the back of my mind whether I should tell it to the passengers, and I finally decided to. Before I did I also told them I only had a cup of hot tea to drink, also that there were no lightning bugs in the cockpit . . .

HUGH : (Chuckles)

KILLIAN : . . . And everybody took it very well. As a matter of fact, it was most enjoyable to them. There was only one passenger who was slightly apprehensive. Several passengers wanted me to go over closer, but I thought discretion was the better part of valor and I remained on course.

HUGH : Absolutely. Well, captain, have you ever had any feelings in regard to unidentified flying objects before this?

KILLIAN : Well, of course, I suppose I'm no different than all the rest of average American individuals. We read about it, and we wonder if the person who has sighted such objects has been sober or sane or telling the truth. Generally, though, you have another feeling like you can't discount them entirely. And that was generally my feeling. I thought, "Well, there must be something to it." But what I was never sure.

HUGH : Would you think these could possibly belong to our Air Force? These things that you saw?

KILLIAN : I might like to say, an airplane always has white lights. One is a flaming light which shines straight forward, and the other is a white tail light, which you can only see if you are to the rear. So in either case, if it were either the landing light or the tail light - if it really were an aircraft it would be either flying toward me or away from me. And in no event could they stay there for 35 or 40 minutes. That would in itself refute the idea of its being an aircraft.

HUGH : Another thing, Captain. Did you notify any other planes in the vicinity?

KILLIAN : Yes, I did. When I was over Erie, Pa., I called on my company frequency and asked if there were any other airplanes in the vicinity, and there were two. There was one around Toledo, and another around Windsor, Canada. And both of them, who I brought it to their attention - both of them sighted the same three shining objects. And the other two also admitted they were higher than they were. I then called Airway Traffic Control and asked them if they had a flight of any three planes on an airway traffic clearance, and there were none. I also tried to pick them up on my radar screen, but our radar is primarily for weather surveillance, and not for airplanes . . .

HUGH : And you could not pick them up?

KILLIAN : . . . And so I did not get anything on my radar.

HUGH : Captain, have you been contacted by the United States Government or anyone in regard to the sighting?

KILLIAN : Not personally. However, we have a procedure with the airline that when there are unknown sightings of any kind we make a report for the company, which, in turn, reports this to the government for immediate dissemination. I immediately called my company in Detroit, and Detroit itself gave it to the Government.

HUGH : How fast were you traveling?

KILLIAN : Roughly 280 to 300 miles per hour.

HUGH : Well, I do appreciate your devoting your time to our listeners this morning. Captain, and if you are ever in Charleston, W. Va., - do you fly through this part of the country?

KILLIAN : Yes. Occasionally I do land there. I've been to Charleston many times and I've always admired your city very much.

HUGH : Thank you, Captain. And when you're here in Charleston, please give me a ring and have a bite to eat with us.

KILLIAN : Swell! It's been a pleasure talking to you.

HUGH : Thank you again.

KILLIAN : Not at all, sir.

The Air Force Explanation

We pause here to make another FLYING SAUCERS quarterly award for exceptional bravery in the field of saucery doubletalk, and again the Air Force is the winner. Along with the old copies of science fiction magazines, several bottles of hair tonic, and a few unmentionable items, Ray Palmer is sending a special statuette in the form of a bronze hand with fingers crossed.

The first inspiration the AF came up with was the constellation Orion. That was what Capt. Killian, and all the passengers, for that matter, saw. But when the Captain's interviews showed he had seen BOTH the constellation and the objects at the same time, they know they would have to come up with another one.

"How about 'jets refueling,'" we can imagine some bright young officer saying, and another officer who outranked him musing, "Jets refueling . . .jets refueling . . . yes, that's a good one. Get me the information officer, I HAVE IT ALL FIGURED OUT!"

But Captain Killian had already told the Detroit Times: "I thought it might be a high altitude jet refueling operation, but the varying intensity of the lights and the changing position of the objects made me toss out that theory."

Meanwhile, other testimony, unknown to Killian at the time of the radio and press interviews, poured in to back him up. The crews of three United Airlines planes had also seen the lights, confirmed independently that the objects represented, without doubt, a formation of some kind of aircraft. The separate crews had talked to each other by radio, as Killian had discussed the sighting with other American Airlines crews, while the objects were under observation.

The Akron UFO Research Group added further confirmation, reported that several local witnesses had observed lights between 9:15 and 9:20 p.m.

The dramatic sighting had touched off controversies and statements in various quarters, but the most dramatic pronouncement had been Lt. Col. Lee B. James, who is associated with Dr. Wernher Van Braun at the Army ordinance missile command, Huntsville, Ala.

He told the Detroit Times: "I know they are not from here and they are not coming from Russia. We in this civilization are not that advanced yet . . . Not discounting natural phenomena, if the passengers and several crew members saw what they really saw, it would have to come from outer space - a civilization decades ahead of ours."

But if the things had been real, the Times queried James, why had Capt. Killian not been able to pick them up on his radar?

He replied that although metals and light would reflect sufficiently to be traced on radar, "It might be a special coating or a composite of certain materials which might prevent such a reflection."

In Washington, NICAP, headed by Maj. Donald E. Keyhoe, indicated that the Air Force might not, after all, be the agency to hold responsible for UFO secrecy. In the group's publication, THE UFO INVESTIGATOR, the editors stated that lately some members of the AF have given NICAP a great deal of assistance, unofficially, of course, and have conveyed the impression that many of the personnel thoroughly dislike the secrecy and doubletalk. The editors stated, "There is growing evidence that the AF is the "whipping boy" carrying out the policy of a higher agency, and we regret that our fight to end the secrecy has to be directed at the Air Force."

NICAP, however, didn't name the "higher agency" it suspected, as the writer wondered if there might have been a great deal of truth in what he, himself, Leon Davidson, Coral Lorenzen, and others, had suggested in the pages of FLYING SAUCERS. Take the three middle letters in the "NICAP" name, switch them around a bit, and you have the agency, which, through only a slight stretch of the imagination, could be the engineer of "the masterpiece of organized confusion" that is the saucer mystery.

But as for Capt. Killian at press-time, nothing more could be learned from him: he already had got the nod to "shush up."

Références :

    * Rubrique Chasing the Flying Saucers de Gray Barker (Flying Saucers, Juillet 1959)

http://www.rr0.org/personne/k/KillianPeter.html

http://www.ufologie.net/press/nyt26fev1959f.htm
http://www.nicap.org/killian1.htm


_______________________________________
Veuillez svp respecter le forum en postant des messages sérieux et constructifs sans SMS. Merci à l'avance et bonne lecture.
Rendez-vous sur le blog: http://ovnis-ufo.org/ Poster votre témoignage: Cliquer ici Perte de mot de passe: cliquer ici


Dernière édition par Benjamin.D le Dim 22 Nov 2009, 19:16, édité 4 fois
Revenir en haut Aller en bas
Voir le profil de l'utilisateur http://ovnis-ufo.org/
Benjamin.d
Responsable du forum
Responsable du forum
avatar



Masculin Age : 39
Nombre de messages : 12596
Inscription : 11/03/2007
Localisation : France
Emploi : Privé
Passions : Ufologie, Histoire, lecture
Règlement : Règlement

MessageSujet: Re: (1959) L'observation du pilote Peter Killian aux USA   Dim 28 Déc 2008, 20:35

Airliners Paced by three UFOs (The Killian Case)

Date
February 23, 1959 Location
Williamsport, Pennsylvania, United States


Summary: The sighting of three glowing objects by several airline crews February 24, 1959 is one of the most thoroughly investigated (and, ironically, one of the most controversial) on record. The key witness, Capt. Peter W. Killian, was interviewed by NICAP personnel. A detailed investigation report, including weather data, air navigation maps, etc. , was submitted to NlCAP by the New York City Affiliate. The Akron UFO Research Committee co - operated in the investigation, adding valuable details.

An American Airlines DC-6

Capt. Killian

Type of Case/Report: MajorCase
Hynek Classification:
Number of Witnesses: Multiple
Special Features/Characteristics: Pilot/Aircrew, Witness Photo

http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case1105.htm

_______________________________________
Veuillez svp respecter le forum en postant des messages sérieux et constructifs sans SMS. Merci à l'avance et bonne lecture.
Rendez-vous sur le blog: http://ovnis-ufo.org/ Poster votre témoignage: Cliquer ici Perte de mot de passe: cliquer ici
Revenir en haut Aller en bas
Voir le profil de l'utilisateur http://ovnis-ufo.org/
Benjamin.d
Responsable du forum
Responsable du forum
avatar



Masculin Age : 39
Nombre de messages : 12596
Inscription : 11/03/2007
Localisation : France
Emploi : Privé
Passions : Ufologie, Histoire, lecture
Règlement : Règlement

MessageSujet: Re: (1959) L'observation du pilote Peter Killian aux USA   Dim 28 Déc 2008, 20:39

Airliners Paced By Three UFOs: The Killian Case
Nr. Williamsport, Pennsylvania
February 24, 1959


DC-6B Transport



Richard Hall:
Captain Killian and First Officer James Dee, American Airlines, were flying a DC-6B nonstop from Newark to Detroit. It was a clear night, with stars brightly visible and no moon. At 8:20 p.m. EST the plane was approximately 13 miles west of Williamsport, Pennsylvania, flying on a heading of 295 degrees at 8,500 feet. Off the left wingtip, Captain Killian noticed three bright lights, which he first thought were the three stars making up the belt of the constellation Orion. But then he realized that Orion was also visible, higher overhead. The UFOs were about 15 degrees above the plane.

As he and F/O Dee continued to watch, the objects pulled ahead of the wingtip. At this point, in the vicinity of Erie, Pennsylvania, Captain Killian contacted two other American Airlines planes in the area. One at the Dolphin checkpoint (over the northern shore of Lake Erie) saw the objects directly to the south over Cleveland. The other aircraft, near Sandusky, Ohio, and headed toward Pittsburgh, spotted the objects a little to the left of their heading, to the southeast.

Click here for larger GIF

As the DC-6B continued west, the UFOs occasionally pulled ahead and dropped back until they were in their original position with respect to the left wingtip. Then Captain Killian began letting down for landing in Detroit, and the crew no longer had time to watch the objects.

During the 45 minute observation, the UFOs continuously changed brightness, flashing brightly "brighter than any star," and fading completely. This did not occur in any apparent pattern. The color fluctuated from yellow-orange to a brilliant blue-white at their brightest. The last object in line moved back and forth at times, independently of the generally western motion of the formation.

Visibility was unlimited. The pilots agreed, "It could not be any clearer than it was that night above 5,000 feet."

When the plane began letting down for landing, about 9:15 p.m., Captain Killian and F/O Dee lost sight of the objects. At 9:30 p.m. in Akron, Ohio, George Popowitch of the UFO Research Committee received a phone call from a contact at the Akron airport. A United Airlines plane (Flight 937) had just landed for a 15-minute stop, and reported sighting three UFOs which had followed their plane for 30 minutes. Popowitch had already received 9 reports from local citizens between 9:15 and 9:20 of three UFOs seen in the area, so he arranged to interview the crew of the airliner.

Captain A.D. Yates and Eng. L.E. Baney said they had tracked the objects from the vicinity of Lockhaven, Pennsylvania, to Youngstown, Ohio, between 8:40 and 9:10 p.m. United Airlines Flight 321, also, had discussed the objects by radio. Captain Yates had seen the UFOs pacing his plane to the south. But in the vicinity of Warren, Ohio the objects passed the aircraft, veered to the right, and finally disappeared to the northwest.

Source: UFO EVIDENCE, Section V, Pages 42-43




Capt. Killian with two hostess (also witnesses).



In this photo Killian has in his left hand a model of an American Airlines DC-6.

NICAP UFO EVIDENCE, Section IX, Page 116-117:
Capt. Peter Killian, American Airlines pilot, was one of several pilots who reported observing three UFOs above Pennsylvania, Feb.24, 1959. (See Section V). While traveling westward across the state, Capt. Killian and the other pilots saw the UFOs flying a parallel course to the south. The Air Force later stated that the pilots had seen Air Force bombers refueling from a tanker aircraft.

Reconstructing the sighting (see map), it is possible to trace a hypothetical, but very consistent, picture of the UFOs' flight path. Around 6:20 to 6:40 p.m., from Central Pennsylvania, the UFOs were observed to the SSW paralleling the westerly course of the airliners. Their distance, of course, is unknown. But based on subsequent observations, it is a reasonable supposition that the UFOs were over southern Pennsylvania, in the vicinity of Pittsburgh and Johnstown.

Around the same time that Capt. A. D. Yates, United Airlines, saw the UFOs turn and head northwest in the vicinity of Akron, three American Airlines pilots simultaneously saw the objects (8:55 p.m.). Their lines of sight converge on the Cleveland- Akron area. By 9:20 p.m., the Akron UFO Research Committee had received reports from ground observers, describing three UFOs headed west. Capt. Killian continued to observe the UFOs until he began his landing approach at Detroit, about 120 miles northwest of Akron.

In a letter to Senator Harry Flood Byrd, dated 6 May 1959, Maj. Gen. W. P. Fisher (Air Force Director of Legislative Liaison) stated:

"The investigation of this incident revealed that an Air Force refueling mission, involving a KC-97 and three B-47 aircraft, was flown in the vicinity of Bradford, Pennsylvania, at the time of the sighting by Capt. Killian. The refueling operation was conducted at 17,000 feet altitude at approximately 230 knots true air speed (about 265 mph) for a period of approximately one hour."

Assuming that this is a completely accurate statement, the Air Force could lay to rest this "flying saucer" report once and for all by publishing the exact flight plan of the refueling mission. Surely, at this late date there would be no compromising of security. On the surface, the explanation is plausible (except for the back-and-forth motion of the third UFO in line). The distance from the area of Johnstown, Pa., to Detroit is approximately 250 miles, which is consistent with the distance that would be covered by the refueling tanker. On closer analysis, however, there are several discrepancies in this explanation:

(1) Bradford, Pa., given as a geographical reference point for the refueling mission, is north of the flight paths of the American and United airliners. All the pilots saw the UFOs to the south. If the refueling mission actually took place over southern Pennsylvania (which would have to be the case to account for the reported facts), why wasn't Pittsburgh or Johnstown given as a reference point? Bradford is virtually the full width of the state away from the apparent location of the UFOs.

(2) Triangulation shows that (from the line of Capt. Killian's flight path in Central Pennsylvania) the tanker and other aircraft would have to be within 12 miles of Capt. Killian's position for a sighting angle of 15 degrees to place them at approximately 17,000 feet altitude. Even allowing for a 1/3 error in estimation of angle, the aircraft would have to be within 20 miles to the south of Capt. Killian. This is inconsistent with the observation by Capt. Yates, farther to the south, who also saw the UFOs to his south as he traveled all the way to the Pennsylvania-Ohio border.

(3) Triangulation of the simultaneous sighting by the three American Airlines pilots is even more damaging to the tanker explanation. The three lines of sight converge on the general Akron area, where ground sightings also tend to confirm the distance from Capt. Killian's aircraft. From the position of Capt. Killian's plane at the time of the simultaneous observation, the distance to Akron is approximately 70 miles.



tan 15 degrees- 4

x 70 tan 15 degrees

x = 18.1 miles

x 95,568 feet (altitude of UFOs)

Even allowing for a 2/3 error in angle estimation:

x 70 tan S degrees

x 6.1 miles

x -- 32,208 feet (altitude of UFOs)

(4) The American Airlines pilots checked after landing and learned that no jet tankers were in the area. (Taped statement by copilot on file at CSI, New York). Capt. Killian is also quoted by the Air Force as stating that a check with Air Traffic Control showed no three aircraft in the area (see below).

(5) Several aspects of the Air Force handling of this case suggest a desire to explain it away, including issuance of typical counter-to-fact explanations.

Before any representatives of the Air Force contacted Capt. Killian to obtain his report, the Air Force first suggested he had been fooled by the belt of the constellation Orion seen through breaks in the overcast. (There was no overcast). This statement was issued from ATIC three days after the sighting. An anonymous spokesman implied that UFO witnesses often proved to be drunks (N.Y. Herald-Tribune; March 1, 1959).

On March 20 (more than three weeks after the sighting) the Air Force issued a statement from Washington alleging that the airline pilots had seen a refueling mission. (One critic of the USAF UFO investigation wryly suggested to NICAP that it took the Air Force three weeks to locate some of its own planes). The refueling mission explanation has since been given all inquiring Members of Congress.

When contacted by the press about the tanker explanation, Capt. Killian gave a strong rebuttal: "If the Air Force wants to believe that, it can," Capt. Killian said. "But I know what a B-47 looks like and I know what a KC-97 tanker looks like, and I know what they look like in operation at night. And that's not what I saw." [See Notes, Section V]

Later, the Air Force began circulating a copy of a statement (unsigned) which it alleges was obtained from Capt. Killian by American Airlines:



COPY

American Airlines, Inc.

Flight 139 - February 24, 1959

Captain P. W. Killian

Departing Newark 1910 arriving Detroit 2252.

It was approximately 2045 I noticed these three lights off my left wing in the vicinity of Bradford, Pennsylvania. I was flying 8,500 VFR on top of broken clouds. Visibility was unlimited with no upper clouds observed. It was extremely difficult to ascertain the distance of the lights. The color of the lights were from a yellow to a light orange. The intensity of the lights also changed from dim to a bright brilliant. Sometimes the interval of the three lights were identical to the Belt of the constellation Orion. Occasionally the rear lights lagged somewhat behind. Also changed altitudes. During the 40 minutes of observation, the three lights occasionally came forward from a 9 o'clock position to 11 o'clock position and then fell back to the original 9 o'clock position. Also occasionally the lights extinguished completely alternating from one to another, sometimes the whole three were extinguished and during this whole operation, as I mentioned before, the lights changed in intensity. This motion was not only seen by myself but four crew members and passengers on board and also by two other airplanes in the area.

The only possible explanation other than flying saucers could be a jet tanker refueling operation. Never having witnessed refueling operation at night, I am not aware of the lighting of the jet tanker.

My air speed during this complete flight was 250 knots indicated. I also do not know the air speed of tankers during operation if this could be so. I contacted ATC to find out if they had any airplanes on a clearance and no three airplanes were given.


In attempting to resolve the contradictions, NICAP once again telephoned Capt. Killian. Mrs. Killian stated to the NICAP Director that Capt. Killian had been instructed not to say any more about the sighting. She indicated he was angry about being silenced, and felt his rights were being denied.

Officially, the case has been "explained" as a refueling mission. The facts obtained before Capt. Killian was silenced (including his own public denial of that explanation), the above triangulations, and the type and timing of the Air Force statements all cast doubt on the validity of the explanation.

Though it may seem far-fetched to those unfamiliar with UFO history to suppose that the Air Force would have any motive for a deliberate cover-up, the former chief of the Air Force UFO project, himself, reported many similar incidents. A good parallel to the Capt. Killian sighting is described by Capt. Edward J. Ruppelt (Report on Unidentified Flying Objects, ppg. 119-120). When a report came in from airline pilots that their plane had been buzzed by a cigar-shaped object as they were taking off from Sioux City, Iowa [See Section V; 1-20-51], Capt. Ruppelt witnessed the reaction by Air Force investigators. The sighting was treated as a joke; the "investigator" merely located an Air Force bomber near Sioux City and blamed it for the sighting. Capt. Ruppelt acknowledged the absurdity of this answer: a bomber buzzing an airliner in an airport traffic pattern. There was no investigation; only an arbitrary and counter-to-fact "explanation".

NICAP UFO EVIDENCE, Section IX, Page 116-117


(This web page was produced for the NICAP web site by Francis Ridge and Bobby Richardson. Photos of Capt. Killian were supplied by Dominique Weinstein)

The Case Directory For This Encounter

http://www.nicap.org/killian1.htm

_______________________________________
Veuillez svp respecter le forum en postant des messages sérieux et constructifs sans SMS. Merci à l'avance et bonne lecture.
Rendez-vous sur le blog: http://ovnis-ufo.org/ Poster votre témoignage: Cliquer ici Perte de mot de passe: cliquer ici
Revenir en haut Aller en bas
Voir le profil de l'utilisateur http://ovnis-ufo.org/
Benjamin.d
Responsable du forum
Responsable du forum
avatar



Masculin Age : 39
Nombre de messages : 12596
Inscription : 11/03/2007
Localisation : France
Emploi : Privé
Passions : Ufologie, Histoire, lecture
Règlement : Règlement

MessageSujet: Re: (1959) L'observation du pilote Peter Killian aux USA   Dim 28 Déc 2008, 20:39

BLUE BOOK PEARLS
CAPT. KILLIAN'S CASE

Dr. Willy Smith:

SUMMARY OF INCIDENT

On the night of February 24, 1959 a scheduled American Airlines flight from Newark to Detroit encountered three lights over Pennsylvania. The initial detection took place at 8:20 PM when the aircraft was 13 miles west of Williamsport. and the lights remained at about the 9 o'clock position for 40 minutes, providing an opportunity for many of the 35 passenger to observe them. They were also observed by the crews of two other planes flying much farther to the south, as well as by the tower operators in Pittsburgh. PA.

The information content of this sighting is low, as all we have is three non-point lights changing relative position and separation, with intensity fluctuating from bright to fade-out and color variable from yellow-orange to brilliant blue white.

The case made headlines and threw the Air Force into a frenzy, with an escalation of explanations which included the suggestion that those who report flying saucers--including Capt. Killian and his passengers-- usually had one too many. The refueling mission explanation was finally adopted; containing some attractive features, it was accepted by the press and the case passed into oblivion. However, a scientific and more detailed re-examination of the BB files shows that the Air Force was more eager to produce an explanation, any explanation, than to find out what really happened.

THE UNDISPUTED DATA

The lights reported by Capt. Killian on February 24, 1959 were explained by Blue Book as having a very simple cause: a refueling mission. But we know after years of studying the files that the Air Force had a knack for picking out from all the tentative explanations the one that was practically impossible. This leads me to the following question: postulating that a mission was on that night: do the data provided by Capt. Killian and other pilots support that hypothesis?

Before discussing the pros and cons for the reality of the refueling mission, we start with two pieces of information which so far have not been disputed, even by biased investigators like the late Dr, Menzel (Ref. 10)

The first one is the statement by Capt. Killian that "the altitude of the objects was 30 degrees above my horizon" (Ref. 1). The second is the information that KC-97 refueling missions are flown at 17,000 ft. It is then easy to make an order of magnitude calculation to determine the distance "a" from the plane to the lights reported by Capt. Killian, without any precise knowledge of the exact position of the aircraft or the lights. We can assume with a small error that "a" is the hypotenuse of a right triangle in which the distance from the lights to the ground is h = 17000 ft. while A is the angle between the line of sight and the tangent to the horizon.

We then construct the following table:

The value A = 15 degrees was included because it is mentioned sometimes in the literature, as for example in Ref. 8, where one can find some rough attempt at a similar analysis. The other values are added for completeness, to show how little an error in angular elevation affects the results.

The Refueling Mission Explanation

The third column expresses the distance from Capt. Killian's plane to the lights in nautical miles, which for none of the cases exceeds 35 nm. In other words, whatever the source was, it was not too far away, certainly not the almost 120 statute miles (104 nm) that would be necessary for the refueling mission to be seen from Capt. Killian's plane at 8:45 PM from the vicinity of Bradford, PA (Ref. 8, p. 117), and at about the same time (8:40 PM) be reported by the tower operators over Pittsburgh (Ref. 4). There is no doubt that a refueling mission was flown that night, but it was not what Capt. Killian saw, if the AF assertion that they are flown at 17.000 ft. is correct (Ref. 2)

Another approach is to consider the resolution of the human eye, defined as the angular separation that must exist between two objects to be perceived as distinct. It has a value of a = 0.25 milliradians, and the linear separation d is obtained using the formula: d = aa, where a is the distance between the objects and the eye,

The values in the last column of the table are obtained using that formula. But the fact is that the wing span of a B-47 is 116 ft., while for the KC-97 tanker it is 141 ft., so in all cases the lights of the planes would have been resolved and the aircraft positively identified. This was not the case, as all that was described by Capt. Killian and the other witnesses on Flight 139 were three lights in loose formation. Of course, if the planes were far enough away, the lights of each would have appeared blended into one, but the numbers in the table indicate that the distance required is of the order of more than thirty nautical miles, which does not satisfy the data. It could be argued that Capt. Killian committed a gross error in estimating at 30 degrees the elevation of the lights above the plane, but even if the elevation was only 10 degrees, the distance was about 16 nm and the lights would have been resolved. Moreover, we are told of three lights, not four, although there were four aircraft. The inescapable conclusion is that the refueling mission, if any, was either much higher and/or much farther away than stated. This is not possible either, as for the refueling both aircraft must decrease speed which can only be accomplished by decreasing altitude. The stated altitude of 17,000 ft. is in agreement with the design parameters of the aircraft involved.

The same limitations on the distances are equally valid for the other aircraft reporting lights that night. For example, Capt. Yates' plane was too far south to see the lights of a refueling mission observed at the same time by Capt. killian. Yet he reported that at 9:00 PM something heading northwest crossed his flying path near Youngstown. OH (Ref. 8. p. 116). In addition. observers in the ground near Akron, OH reported lights moving east to west west at 9:15 PM (Ref. 8). from the official files we know that a refueling operation was over Pittsburgh at 8:40 PM, (Ret. 4) and a look at the map indicates that the three observations fit quite well; thus, what Capt.Yates saw and reported was very likely that specific refueling mission.

Another negative aspect for identifying the lights seen by Capt. Killian and his passengers as aircraft is that the colors reported do not match what one would expect from the position lights of planes. Also. the lights were too powerful to be associated with jets. What made the explanation attractive, that is, until a more rigorous analysis is performed, is the relative motion of the lights, although Capt. Killian characterized it as too erratic to be jets

Before he was silenced - and there is no question about that either (Ref. 9, p. 15) Capt. Killian provided quite a bit of information expanding on his original statements. In one of them (Ref. 9, page 3) he says: " At first, I estimated that the objects were not over a mile from us. This was just an impression: / be/ieve now that they were not that close". No. they weren't that close. but they were not very far away either, if we can trust the AF data about refueling missions!

In this same interview Capt. Killian adds a numerical bit: "they appeared to be like the apparent size of the moon". Well, as everyone knows, the size of the full moon is 32' of arc or 9.3 milliradians; let's compare this with other statement made by Capt. Killian to Major Werkmeister many weeks after the facts (Ref. 3): the lights were each "the size of a quarter at arm's length". The diameter of a quarter is 7/8 of an inch, and the arm's length is ambiguous, but taking it to mean 30 inches, then the quarter subtends an angle of 29 mrad, i.e, three times the diameter of the moon, which I don't find credible. If we use those two values and calculate the diameter of one object at the distance of 5.6 nm corresponding to the reported elevation of 30 degrees, we obtain:

moon size: d = 316 ft.
quarter at arm's length: d = 987 ft.

diameters which seem a bit too large, for had they been planes, with a constellation of lights to boot, at a distance of 5.6 nm the identification would have been immediate. Perhaps Capt. Killian was bad at estimating angular sizes, or perhaps he was trying to express that the lights were not point sources. But what is clear is that he did not observe a refueling mission near or far.

The most damaging argument against the refueling mission hypothesis is the manner in which the AF changed its explications for the incident. In the first release (Feb. 28), the lights were the Belt of Orion, simply because Capt. Killian had used it as a model of what he saw. A few days later (March 1), some nasty remarks were made to the press about inebriation and UFO sightings (Ref. 11). And the third story was the refueling mission, released March 16, although the files show that the AF knew about it since March 2 at least (Ref. 4).

Somehow the AF felt threatened by Capt. Killian's persistence that he had seen what he saw. After a point his statements to the press stopped, but his wife was not silenced, and she revealed that pressure had been exerted on American Airlines and that the company had ordered Capt. Killian to cease and desist, which he did.

Other testimonies

The Blue Book files are silent about the testimony by other commercial pilots, and the information provided by other sources (Ref. 8) is not detailed enough for evaluation; besides, our purpose is to analyze the incident based only on the official information.

The official files contain, nonetheless, a report that has some bearing on this matter. On the evening of February 2, 1959, about three weeks prior to the Killian incident, a distinguished professor at the University of Michigan and his wife were driving on the Ohio Turnpike near Sandusky. OH. The sighting was reported to the FBI in Detroit, which transmitted the information to the Air Force in Washington DC, and then to Selfridge AFB in Michigan, which in turn, passed it on to ATIC in Dayton, OH, on February 25, 1959. Evidently, on that precise date ATIC was not very receptive to any information supporting even remotely the Killian incident (Ref. 6).

Curiously enough, the files contain only a retyped copy of the original FBI report (Ref. 7), where we learn that the witnesses described what they saw as a "yellow thing", which had an upper part much like the top of a sphere, while the lower part was rather level or flat. Other tantalizing details are provided, such as the presence of the silhouette of a conventional aircraft departing in the opposite direction.

This report is relevant for at least three reasons: 1) the location is in the area of the 24 Feb. sightings, as shown on the map appearing on page 116 of reference 8; ii) because the witnesses are unimpeachable; this I know firsthand, as I was acquainted with the professor many years ago when I was a student at the University of Michigan; and iii) and perhaps the more important, the expedience with which the AF dismissed the incident without remorse (Ref. 6).

CONCLUSIONS

The above discussion has shown that the incident described by Capt. Killian was almost certainly not a refueling mission, although it is easy to understand the irresistible appeal that such a solution had for the Air Force analysts, in their ignorance of the possible methods for testing its viability. It is a beautiful example of the underhanded techniques used by the Air Force to discredit reliable witnesses.

The official explanation is therefore untenable, and the proper classification for this incident should have been "UNEXPLAINED".


Dr. Willy Smith
UNICAT Project
November 10, 1992


REFERENCES AND NOTES

The following documents are part of the BLUE BOOK FILES (RoIl 35)

(1) Memo prepared by Capt. Killian dated February 24, 1959 with reference to Flight 139 and transmitted to the Air Force by AMERICAN AIRLINES.

This Memo has been reproduced many times, but often with the last paragraph omitted (Example; UFO EVIDENCE, p. 116). or with two paragraphs added emphasizing the refueling mission explanation (Example: enclosure in Ref. 5). The original document ends with the words "Distance away is unknown" and is not signed. The important item is: "The altitude of the objects was 30 deg. above my horizon."


(2) Letter addressed to Mr. Fred A. Kirsch dated 19 March 1959 and signed by Lawrence J. Tacker. Major USAF, Public Information Division.


Provides details about refueling missions, indicating inter alia that KC-97's fly at an altitude of 17000 ft. at 230 knots TAS.


(3) Memo to ATIC dated 14 Aug.1959 and signed by R. F. Werkmeister, Major USAF. Administrative Officer.


This document reproduces (1) above, and adds a telephone conversation with Capt. Killian, where mention is made of the size of the lights [each individual light was the size of a quarter at arm's length]. It is also the first direct contact between the Air Force and Capt. Killian


(4) Undated Memo addressed to ATIC Commander, Dayton, Ohio, signed by William D. Hostutler. Capt. USAF, Administrative Officer.


This document is in reply to a telephone call received at 08:20 on March 2, 1959, and confirms that at 20:40 hrs, 24 February (0140Z, 25 Feb.) three B-47's from the 772nd ACW Sq. were on a refueling mission near Pittsburgh, PA as reported by the tower operators.


(5) Letter to Ms. Frances Ryan dated 24 June 1959 and signed by Lawrence J. Tacker. Major USAF. Public Information Division.


(6) Memorandum to ATIC Commander, Dayton. OH. dated 25 Feb.1959 and signed by P.E. Chancy, Major, USAF, Administrative Officer.

(7) Memorandum to SAC by S.A. Coghlan dated February 4, 1959.

Coghlan apparently was an FBI agent in Detroit. The document now in the BB files is not the original, but an unsigned retyped copy.

Other non-official references.

(8) Hall, R.; THE UFO EVIDENCE, 1964, p. 116 and p.42


(9) REPORT ON UFOs observed Feb.24, 1959 by AMERICAN-UNITED airline pilots. Compiled by Unidentified Flying Objects Research Committee, Akron. OH. undated.


This report is reproduced in toto in the Blue Book files


(10) Menzel, Donald H. and Boyd, Lyle G: THE WORLD OF FLYING SAUCERS.


The final galley proofs of the pages dealing with the Killian case are part of the official Blue Book records.


(11 ) "'Flying Saucers' Sightings Still Get Air Force Study", in the March 1, 1959 issue of the New York Herald Tribune under the byline of Ralph Chapman.

http://www.nicap.org/killian2.htm

_______________________________________
Veuillez svp respecter le forum en postant des messages sérieux et constructifs sans SMS. Merci à l'avance et bonne lecture.
Rendez-vous sur le blog: http://ovnis-ufo.org/ Poster votre témoignage: Cliquer ici Perte de mot de passe: cliquer ici
Revenir en haut Aller en bas
Voir le profil de l'utilisateur http://ovnis-ufo.org/
Benjamin.d
Responsable du forum
Responsable du forum
avatar



Masculin Age : 39
Nombre de messages : 12596
Inscription : 11/03/2007
Localisation : France
Emploi : Privé
Passions : Ufologie, Histoire, lecture
Règlement : Règlement

MessageSujet: Re: (1959) L'observation du pilote Peter Killian aux USA   Dim 28 Déc 2008, 20:40

Source: Richard Hall, UFO Evidence, 1964 (NICAP)
Original Source

The sighting of three glowing objects by several airline crews February 24, 1959, is one of the most thoroughly investigated (and ironically, one of the most controversial) on record.

On February 24, 1959, Captain Peter W. Killian and First Officer James Dee, American Airlines, were flying a DC-6B nonstop from Newark to Detroit. It was a clear night, with stars brightly visible and no moon. At 8:20 P.M. (EST) the plane was approximately thirteen miles west of Williamsport, Pennsylvania, flying on a heading of 295 degrees at 8,500 feet. Off the left wingtip, Captain Killian noticed three bright lights, which he first thought was the three stars making up the belt of the constellation Orion. But then he realized that Orion was also visible, higher overhead. The UFOs were about 15 degrees above the plane.

As he and Flight Officer (F/O) Dee continued to watch, the objects pulled ahead of the wingtip. At this point, in the vicinity of Erie, Pennsylvania, Captain Killian contacted two other American Airlines planes in the area. One, at the "Dolphin checkpoint" (over the northern shore of Lake Erie), saw the objects directly to the south over Cleveland. The other aircraft, near Sandusky, Ohio, and heading toward Pittsburgh. spotted the objects a little to the left of their heading, to the southeast.

As the DC-6B continued west, the UFOs occasionally pulled ahead and dropped back until they were in their original position with respect to the left wingtip. Then Captain Killian began letting down for landing in Detroit, and the crew no longer had time to watch the objects.

During the forty-five minute observation, the UFOs continuously changed brightness, flashing "brighter than any star," and then fading completely. This did not occur in any apparent pattern. The color fluctuated from yellow-orange to a brilliant blue-white at their brightest. The last object in line moved back and forth at times, independently of the generally western motion of the formation.

Visibility was unlimited. The pilots agreed: "It could not be any clearer than it was that night above 5,000 feet."

When the plane began letting down for landing, about 9:15 P.M., Captain Killian and F/O Dee lost sight of the objects. At 9:30 P.M. in Akron, Ohio, George Popowitch of the UFO Research Committee received a phone call from a contact at the Akron airport. A United Airlines plane
(Flight 937) had just landed for a fifteen-minute stop and reported sighting three UFOs which had followed their plane for thirty minutes. Popowitch had already received nine reports from local citizens between 9:15 and 9:20 of there UFOs seen in the area, so he arranged to interview the crew of the airliner.

Captain A. D. Yates and Engineer L. E. Baney said they had tracked the object from the vicinity of Lockhaven, Pennsylvania, to Youngstown, Ohio, between 8:40 and 9:10 P.M. United Airlines flight 321, also, had discussed the objects by radio. Captain Yates had seen the UFOs pacing his plane to the south. But in the vicinity of Warren, Ohio, the objects passed the aircraft, veered to the right, and finally disappeared to the northwest.

On May 6, 1959, Major General W. P. Fisher, Air Force Director of Legislative Liaison, in a letter to Senator Harry Byrd, stated: "The investigation of this incident revealed that an Air Force refueling mission, involving a KC-97 and three B-47 aircraft, was flown in the vicinity of Bradford, Pennsylvania, at the time of the sighting by Captain Killian. The refueling operation was conducted at 17,000 feet altitude at approximately 230 knots true air speed (about 265 mph) for a period of approximately one hour."

THE NATIONAL INVESTIGATIONS COMMITTEE ON Aerial PHENOMENA pointed out several discrepancies in this explanation:

(1) Bradford was to the north of the airliner's flight path; the UFOs were seen to the south.

(2) Triangulation’s of the pilots' sighting did not conform to the altitude and position information given for the refueling operation.

(3) The American Airlines crews checked with Air Traffic Control at the time and were told that no three aircraft were in the area and, after landing, were told that no jet refueling tankers were in the area.

Queried by the press, Captain Killian said: "If the Air Force wants to believe that, it can. But I know what a B-47 looks like and I know what a KC-97 tanker looks like, and I know what they took like in operation at night. And that’s not what I saw."

The Air Force subsequently released a (unsigned) statement which they said was made by Captain Killian, saying that the UFOs might have been a refueling operation and that he was not aware of what this looked like at night. In the ensuing controversy, American Airlines instructed Captain Killian to keep silent. The Air Force officially concluded that the UFOs were aircraft

_______________________________________
Veuillez svp respecter le forum en postant des messages sérieux et constructifs sans SMS. Merci à l'avance et bonne lecture.
Rendez-vous sur le blog: http://ovnis-ufo.org/ Poster votre témoignage: Cliquer ici Perte de mot de passe: cliquer ici
Revenir en haut Aller en bas
Voir le profil de l'utilisateur http://ovnis-ufo.org/
Claude.T
Participation exceptionnelle
Participation exceptionnelle
avatar



Masculin Age : 47
Nombre de messages : 582
Inscription : 15/08/2007
Localisation : dunkerque
Emploi : ..........
Passions : ufologie
Règlement : Règlement

MessageSujet: Complément a l'affaire Killian.   Mer 11 Nov 2009, 19:44

le 24 février 1959,trois objet volants non identifiés survolent la Pennsylvanie et l'Ohio
et foncent par deux foix sur l'avion de l'american airlines pilotés
par le commandant Peter w.killian.
Celui-ci amorce un demi tour pour éviter la collision.
Killian par radio, signale la rencontre a la tour de contrôle
et a l'arrivé a l'aéroport, un expert de l'aviation,
N.D puncas , qui se trouvait a bord, conforme les dires du pilote dans
une déclaration a la presse.
" j'ai vu ces trois objets dans un ciel clair...
Ils étaient ronds et tenaient une formation exact....
Je n'ai jamais rien vu de semblable...."

L'affaire étant désormais publique , l'U.S force publie
un communiqué ou elle révèle que le pilote a confondu
les O.V.N.I avec des étoiles.
Il réagit en affirmant qu'a ce moment la , il se trouvait
au dessus des nuages et que la visibilité était parfaite.
Quelque temps après, nouveau communiqué de l'armée
de l'air qui soutient , cette fois que Killian était ivre!
Cette accusation indigne les collègues de Killian qui
proclament son honnêteté, sa conscience professionnel
et sa sobriété.
Mais la carrière de Killian est brisée.
Il quitte l'aviation civile car malgré ses dénégations,
une accusation d'ivresse pendant le service signifie
la fin d'une carrière de pilote.
Il semble, en fait , selon certains , que les communiqués
contradictoires de l'armée de l'air aient été provoqués
par la campagne de presse autour de cette affaire et les
multiples déclarations de Killian.
Alors que l' U.S air force cherchait des explications logiques
pour rassurer les passagers de l'aviation civile et ne pas
porter de tort aux compagnies aériennes, l'attitude de
Killian a remis en cause cette prudente politique .
http://img691.imageshack.us/i/286122441l.jpg/


" Le pilote , écrit une revue ufologique , a payé , aux prix de sa
carrière , les frais de la politique de
black-out observée par l'U.S air force."

témoignage a mettre a la suite ici :
http://www.forum-ovni-ufologie.com/ii-cas-aeriens-et-detection-radar-inscidents-avions-ovnis-poursuites-f63/1959-un-pilote-et-des-passagers-d-un-dc-6-observent-des-soucoupes-usa-t5551.htm
si vous le jugé complémentaire.
Se témoignage a été recueilli dans les OVNI ET LES EXTRATERRESTRES
DANS L'HISTOIRE DE Yves Maud.éditions famont.1977
Revenir en haut Aller en bas
Voir le profil de l'utilisateur
Benjamin.d
Responsable du forum
Responsable du forum
avatar



Masculin Age : 39
Nombre de messages : 12596
Inscription : 11/03/2007
Localisation : France
Emploi : Privé
Passions : Ufologie, Histoire, lecture
Règlement : Règlement

MessageSujet: Re: (1959) L'observation du pilote Peter Killian aux USA   Mer 11 Nov 2009, 19:58

Salut,

Merci Beaucoup Claude je vais fusionner les sujets.

Bonne soirée

_______________________________________
Veuillez svp respecter le forum en postant des messages sérieux et constructifs sans SMS. Merci à l'avance et bonne lecture.
Rendez-vous sur le blog: http://ovnis-ufo.org/ Poster votre témoignage: Cliquer ici Perte de mot de passe: cliquer ici
Revenir en haut Aller en bas
Voir le profil de l'utilisateur http://ovnis-ufo.org/
Contenu sponsorisé




MessageSujet: Re: (1959) L'observation du pilote Peter Killian aux USA   

Revenir en haut Aller en bas
 

(1959) L'observation du pilote Peter Killian aux USA

Voir le sujet précédent Voir le sujet suivant Revenir en haut 
Page 1 sur 1

 Sujets similaires

-
» (1959) L'observation du pilote Peter Killian aux USA
» Rapport d'observation d'un pilote de la Swissair
» L’Observation d’ovni par un pilote de la RAF...
» Observation de deux OVNI immenses par un pilote en vol
» observation d'un pilote Canadien décembre 2014

Permission de ce forum:Vous ne pouvez pas répondre aux sujets dans ce forum
Ovni et vie extraterrestre: les mystères des Ovnis :: Base de données: les cas d'observations d'ovni classés par type :: Les affaires importantes dans l'histoire de l'ufologie :: II/ Cas aeriens et détection radar-